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This is how some people believe that power will be taken from us.

Quote: Obama Gives Foreign Cops New Police Powers in U.S.

Posted by: The Liberty Beacon Staff
Published February 4, 2013, filed under GOVERNMENT

A little-discussed executive order from President Obama giving foreign cops new police powers in the United States by exempting them from such drudgery as compliance with the Freedom of Information Act is raising alarm among commentators who say INTERPOL already had most of the same privileges as diplomats.

At David Horowitz’s Newsreal, Michael van der Galien said the issue is Obama’s expansion of President Ronald Reagan’s order from 1983 that originally granted those diplomatic privileges.

Reagan’s order carried certain exemptions requiring that INTERPOL operations be subject to several U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act. Obama, however, removed those restrictions in his Dec. 16 amendment to Executive Order 12425.

That means, van der Galien wrote today, “this foreign law enforcement organization can operate free of an important safeguard against government and abuse.”

“‘Property and assets,’ including the organization’s records, cannot be searched or seized. Their physical locations are now immune from U.S. legal or investigative authorities,” he wrote.

Obama’s order said he was removing the Reagan limitations on INTERPOL:

“AMENDING EXECUTIVE ORDER 12425 DESIGNATING INTERPOL
AS A PUBLIC INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATION ENTITLED TO
ENJOY CERTAIN PRIVILEGES, EXEMPTIONS, AND IMMUNITIES
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Have not followed this but as far as I remember INTERPOL has no cops or agents that can make arrests. Its more a agency making it easier for cops from different countries to work with each other. I remember a case not long ago where the FBI was after somebody in Germany and INTERPOL was used to facilitate the German cops making the arrest and hand him over to us.
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Dave;77952 Wrote:Have not followed this but as far as I remember INTERPOL has no cops or agents that can make arrests. Its more a agency making it easier for cops from different countries to work with each other. I remember a case not long ago where the FBI was after somebody in Germany and INTERPOL was used to facilitate the German cops making the arrest and hand him over to us.

Sorry Dave but they still require oversight if they are going to be working in the good ole USA. I don't care what Ronnie or Obama say on that subject.
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No need to be sorry but the implication is that INTERPOL agents will be in country doing things like search and seizures contrary to the 4th Amendment and I'm just pointing out that they can't for the simple reason that they have NO agents. Otherwise its pretty scary Tongue

Oh, I just noticed your THIS link. LOL. It gives them the same type of administrative immunity as the Red Cross has. And according to the Google the International Halibut Agency has the same too.

Sorry to pee on your thread. I'll let you guys run with it from here. Wink
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Dave;77962 Wrote:No need to be sorry but the implication is that INTERPOL agents will be in country doing things like search and seizures contrary to the 4th Amendment and I'm just pointing out that they can't for the simple reason that they have NO agents. Otherwise its pretty scary Tongue

Oh, I just noticed your THIS link. LOL. It gives them the same type of administrative immunity as the Red Cross has. And according to the Google the International Halibut Agency has the same too.

Sorry to pee on your thread. I'll let you guys run with it from here. Wink

There was a time when INTERPOL had no agents, per se, in any country. Friends in Europe tell me otherwise these days, if you know differently...
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Well. I think I do but it would be interesting to ask your friends if they actually have any agents in the US. I quickly checked justice.gov and came up with this:

Are there INTERPOL agents?
INTERPOL does not have its own law enforcement agents. INTERPOL provides investigative support and secure communications between law enforcement authorities and their counterparts in 190 INTERPOL member countries, as well as administering their access to INTERPOL databases, resources, and services.

What is INTERPOL?
INTERPOL, the International Criminal Police Organization, is the world’s largest international police organization, with 190 member countries. Founded in 1923, its mission is to facilitate the exchange of police information and promote cooperation and assistance between law enforcement authorities of its member countries.

Can a person be arrested based on an INTERPOL Red Notice?
Once published by INTERPOL, each member country determines what effect to give a Notice within its jurisdiction according to its national law and practice. The United States does not consider a Red Notice alone to be a sufficient basis for the arrest of a subject because it does not meet the requirements for arrest under the 4th Amendment to the Constitution. Instead, the United States treats a foreign-issued Red Notice only as a formalized request by the issuing law enforcement authority to “be on the look-out” for the fugitive in question, and to advise if they are located.
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interpol has agents, as in employees. afaik, these agents are administrative. they depend on local police to do their legwork. this is not to be construed as they do not hunt down people and cause arrests. they are a law enforcement organisation that works crimes like any other.
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Dave;78011 Wrote:Well. I think I do but it would be interesting to ask your friends if they actually have any agents in the US. I quickly checked justice.gov and came up with this:

Are there INTERPOL agents?
INTERPOL does not have its own law enforcement agents. INTERPOL provides investigative support and secure communications between law enforcement authorities and their counterparts in 190 INTERPOL member countries, as well as administering their access to INTERPOL databases, resources, and services.

What is INTERPOL?
INTERPOL, the International Criminal Police Organization, is the world’s largest international police organization, with 190 member countries. Founded in 1923, its mission is to facilitate the exchange of police information and promote cooperation and assistance between law enforcement authorities of its member countries.

Can a person be arrested based on an INTERPOL Red Notice?
Once published by INTERPOL, each member country determines what effect to give a Notice within its jurisdiction according to its national law and practice. The United States does not consider a Red Notice alone to be a sufficient basis for the arrest of a subject because it does not meet the requirements for arrest under the 4th Amendment to the Constitution. Instead, the United States treats a foreign-issued Red Notice only as a formalized request by the issuing law enforcement authority to “be on the look-out” for the fugitive in question, and to advise if they are located.


You mean Eric Holder's Justice Dept. gave you information? We know that they don't "stretch the truth" or more recently "change the facts" when it comes to giving the public honest answers. Dodgy

From the Interpol site however;
Quote: Overview
INTERPOL is the world’s largest international police organization, with 190  member countries.

Our role is to enable police around the world to work together to make the world a safer place. Our high-tech infrastructure of technical and operational support helps meet the growing challenges of fighting crime in the 21st century.
and;
Quote: Priorities

INTERPOL has amended its strategic framework for the years 2011-2013 during the 81st session of the General Assembly (2012), to provide an enhanced, focused and effective direction for our programmes and activities during this period. Within this framework (the initial version was approved by our General Assembly in November 2010), we have defined four strategic priorities and two corporate priorities.

These priorities are in line with the Organization's  vision and mission and reflect the dynamic environment and challenges of international policing in the 21st century.
Strategic priorities
1: Secure global communication systems
Priority 1

We run a secure global police communications and support system (known as I-24/7) that connects all 190 National Central Bureaus (NCBs), along with other authorized law enforcement agencies and strategic partners, allowing them to instantly access, request and submit vital data.

We are committed to making INTERPOL tools and services more efficient and effective over the next three years. We will achieve this through a number of objectives and activities, for example by enhancing the infrastructure of I-24/7, continuing to expand the system beyond NCBs and to officers in the field, and by better integrating the sharing of data between INTERPOL and other systems.
2: 24/7 support to policing and law enforcement
Priority 2

We provide round-the-clock support and a wide range of operational assistance to our member countries, including emergency and crisis response. We are committed to further improving response times, follow-up and the integrated nature of our response.

Objectives and activities are focused around the work of our Command and Coordination Centre, the development of new investigative expertise, and the deployment of teams specialized in incident response, security issues at major events and the identification of disaster victims.
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billamj;78019 Wrote:You mean Eric Holder's Justice Dept. gave you information? We know that they don't "stretch the truth" or more recently "change the facts" when it comes to giving the public honest answers.

Well, I do have a very good friend who works for them in S. America which is how I learned about them. But hey, I've got no answer to such a perfect internet reply Shrug

I'll now just leave alone whoever wants to be afraid of what you posted. Rolleyes
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