pa2a.org


Share Thread:  
12-year-old girl killed in eviction confrontation between father, constable
#1
.
http://myfox8.com/2016/01/12/12-year-old...constable/

Quote:DUNCANNON, Pa. — A 12-year-old girl was shot and killed by a state constable during an apartment eviction in Pennsylvania on Monday, according to WHTM.

Pennsylvania State Constable Clarke Steele was at an apartment complex in Duncannon with an eviction order for Donald Meyer and his family.

Police told WHTM that Steele and Meyer exchanged words. Meyer then pointed a loaded .223 caliber rifle at Steele.

Steele, who was in uniform, unholstered his .40 caliber handgun and fired one shot, police told WHTM. The shot passed through Meyer’s left upper arm and struck his 12-year-old daughter, identified by family members as Ciara Meyer.

Ciara Meyer was pronounced dead at the scene. Donald Meyer was airlifted to Penn State Hershey Medical Center.

Police said employees of the apartment complex were on scene for the eviction and witnessed the event.

Meyer was charged with aggravated assault, simple assault, terroristic threats and reckless endangerment. He was arraigned Tuesday by video.

~snip~
Reply
#2
The moral of the story is, don't point a gun at a cop.
Error 396: Signature cannot be found.
Reply
#3
RugerGirl;171606 Wrote:The moral of the story is, don't point a gun at a cop.

Ever?
[Image: picsay-1358258813.jpg]
Reply
#4
Mr_Gixxer;171607 Wrote:
RugerGirl;171606 Wrote:The moral of the story is, don't point a gun at a cop.

Ever?

You can choose your actions but not the consequences.

He was stupid. The cop didn't unholster until the rifle was pointed at him. Obviously the dad didn't care too much that he was trying to bring on a gunfight with his kid standing right behind him.

It's sad. Nothing will ever make either man feel better about this.
Error 396: Signature cannot be found.
Reply
#5
RugerGirl;171608 Wrote:
Mr_Gixxer;171607 Wrote:Ever?

You can choose your actions but not the consequences.

He was stupid. The cop didn't unholster until the rifle was pointed at him. Obviously the dad didn't care too much that he was trying to bring on a gunfight with his kid standing right behind him.

It's sad. Nothing will ever make either man feel better about this.

Agreed. Based solely on this story I think the tenant was a moron.
[Image: picsay-1358258813.jpg]
Reply
#6
RugerGirl;171606 Wrote:The moral of the story is, don't point a gun at a cop.

Mr_Gixxer;171610 Wrote:
RugerGirl;171608 Wrote:You can choose your actions but not the consequences.

He was stupid. The cop didn't unholster until the rifle was pointed at him. Obviously the dad didn't care too much that he was trying to bring on a gunfight with his kid standing right behind him.

It's sad. Nothing will ever make either man feel better about this.

Agreed. Based solely on this story I think the tenant was a moron.

Even if the parent is a moron, that doesn't mean being wasted is a deserving fate for the child of a moron.

I hesitate at equivocating the word "cop" with constables. The bar to become a constable is pretty low. Do they have to have Act 120 cert before becoming one or is that one of those "you can do it OJT" things?

Either way I am pretty sure shot control would have kept her alive. That's what friend/foe/friend practice is for at the range [if you got a range that can flip targets]. I hate it tho that so many ranges that do have the flippers, shooters often abuse the machine and the flipper doesn't work anymore. Angle up/angle down also permits you to pick off a target in a room with innocents inside (doesn't do much if the shot can make it through the floor/ceiling).
Reply
#7
According to the law, the man with the rifle is responsible for his daughter's death.

To amend RugerGirl's statement, don't point a weapon at anyone unless you are intent on pulling the trigger. The constable is not Clint Eastwood in a Fist Full of Dollars, If the man was indeed pointing the rifle and still lost the draw down then he wanted the lawman to fire.
Reply
#8
The 3rd Law:
Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It
Bullets can go through – and beyond – your intended target. Knowing what’s behind your target is an essential step to safety and responsibility.
NRA (Life), GOA, FOAC (Life), NAGR, AMGOA

RocketFoot's Minion since 09-07-2012
Reply
#9
bigdawgbeav;171615 Wrote:The 3rd Law:
Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It
Bullets can go through – and beyond – your intended target. Knowing what’s behind your target is an essential step to safety and responsibility.

I'm sure when someone is pointing a rifle at you at point blank range, you'll be sure to take the time to check behind the target before you open/return fire.

It sucks the girl died, but the father chose his course of action, he's 100% at fault for her death.
Reply
#10
bigdawgbeav;171615 Wrote:The 3rd Law:
Always Be Sure Of Your Target And What Is Behind It
Bullets can go through – and beyond – your intended target. Knowing what’s behind your target is an essential step to safety and responsibility.

That's the thing. Yes the moron put his daughter in this position. Yes, the constable was clear to fire.


But there's a difference between cops and say, the military. The military is fine with young bucks who "spray and pray". No one expects police to do that even under this kind of duress, which is why precision under pressure is part of training.

It's quite possible that this could not have been avoided based on the laws of physics where everyone was positioned, environment set-up, etc. But I am taking a good guess that was not the case here. Shot control would have kept her alive and this would be a non-story instead of on the front page of Google News.
Reply






Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Two "youths" shoot unarmed father as he begs Emoticon 20 2,813 05-06-2015, 01:42 AM
Last Post: Emoticon
  Pa. trooper killed in ambush on barracks soberbyker 194 15,543 11-15-2014, 11:08 AM
Last Post: spblademaker
  Horse pulling Amish buggy killed in drive-by shooting Philadelphia Patriot 11 1,979 02-13-2014, 12:14 PM
Last Post: rmagill
  21-Year-Old Man Killed Execution-Style Inside North Philadelphia Grocery Store Jon Doe 9 1,591 10-29-2013, 05:20 PM
Last Post: Dave
  10 year old pulls gun in Philadelphia Emoticon 15 2,063 05-05-2013, 03:15 AM
Last Post: topsykretts



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)

Software by MyBB, © 2002-2015 MyBB Group.
Template by Modogodo Design.