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1911/2011 advice
#1
So some of you may have noticed that I have a few guns for sale in the classifieds. I'm looking to raise money for my next purchase.

I'm looking to get back into using a 1911/2011 for competitions. So that would mean selling my XDM at some point as well.

Right now I am torn with all my choices out there. I really like the Para Pro Custom 14.45. But I'm worried that it's to big and heavy for IDPA competition. I also really like the Ruger SR1911. I would make some upgrades to that one to make it what I want for a competition gun. What I like about the Ruger is it has Series 70 parts.

I know I can convert a Series 80 to a 70, but that's not IDPA legal. It's stupid, but it's part of the rules. And if I made the conversion, it would be my luck I get caught.

I know there are a ton of options out there and I keep overwhelming myself. I would love to be able to afford a single and double stack. One for carry, one for competition.

I'm hoping for some insight on this. Maybe get the 14.45 and then when I sell the XDM get a single-stack?

I don't know... my brain is just fried right now.
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#2
My experiences with 1911's are limited to RIA, Taurus, Colts, Numbers, the Dan Wesson Razorback in 10mm, and American Classic II/Firestorm. By experience e, I mean I've actually shot them, carried them, taken them apart and cleaned them.

RIA makes great base guns for custom builds, their customer service is one of the best in the business, and I believe they're Series 70, as per your parameters. There are plenty of Colts in shops today that are Series 70 as well, and are also great base guns.

My own EDC for the past few years has been the Taurus PT1911. I bought mine shortly after it was released, and it's been rock solid; the only thing I don't like is the integral lock system, but since I've never used it, it doesn't matter.
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#3
jahwarrior72;163052 Wrote:My experiences with 1911's are limited to RIA, Taurus, Colts, Numbers, the Dan Wesson Razorback in 10mm, and American Classic II/Firestorm. By experience e, I mean I've actually shot them, carried them, taken them apart and cleaned them.

RIA makes great base guns for custom builds, their customer service is one of the best in the business, and I believe they're Series 70, as per your parameters. There are plenty of Colts in shops today that are Series 70 as well, and are also great base guns.

My own EDC for the past few years has been the Taurus PT1911. I bought mine shortly after it was released, and it's been rock solid; the only thing I don't like is the integral lock system, but since I've never used it, it doesn't matter.

Funny you mention that as I'm selling my PT1911. Like you, no problems. But looking to upgrade and need the cash from the sale for that to happen.

I didn't realize that the RIA's were Series 70s as well. I know they and Para are very similar. I'll look at that route as well.
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#4
How about the Springfield Range Officer? They seem to have gained a good following.

Isn't a 2011 limiting in certain competitions which don't allow full-length dust covers?
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#5
I think you should sell a kidney and buy a Wilson.
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gascolator;163054 Wrote:How about the Springfield Range Officer? They seem to have gained a good following.

Isn't a 2011 limiting in certain competitions which don't allow full-length dust covers?

I heard a lot of guys like using Springfield 1911s as a starting point then customizing them. For what it is worth, I know Springfield uses forged slides and frames instead of casted slides and frames. I'd pick up a Springfield and then switch out a lot of parts with Wilson Combat Bulletproof parts.
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The 5" STI Eagle with a bushing is IDPA legal. I'm really happy with mine.

What are people saying about magazines with the Para 14.45? I know it has been available for quite a while so maybe they have the bugs worked out. My buddy just bought the 16.40 after waiting since it was originally announced. Apparently one of his magazines falls out of the gun whenever a round is discharged.
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#8
If you're shooting USPSA and IDPA both the best crossover gun is going to be the Eagle in .40. .40 minor tends to be softer shooting than 9mm and you can then go shoot Limited and L-10 in USPSA without a scoring disadvantage. There's no real point in shooting .45 in a double stack 1911 unless you want the reload advantage. .45 at minor loads drops fast out at 25 yards and can be an issue if you aren't familiar with it.

The Para P-16 Limited isn't a bad gun. Weight shouldn't be a real concern. From C-A class I shot my 43 oz gun (Edge) a lot better than my 34 oz gun (bushed Eagle). When I made M I started to shoot them about the same. I actually LOVED the Edge with the tungsten barrel sleeve at about 46 oz, but I kept destroying them.
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#9
Thanks for the advice guys.

I do like the STI Eagle in .45... but STI isn't making it anymore. And I don't have that kind of money.

I've heard about the problems with the Para mags, but was under the impression that it was really only with the 16.40 mags. Haven't heard any issues with the 14.45

I would go .40, but I'm not set up for it. Plus .40 still isn't allowed in CDP as I'm primarily an IDPA shooter. But if I do shoot USPSA, that's just some springs and mag extensions. I can still shoot Limited, Major. Yes I'll be at a disadvantage, but I'm not exactly burning up the scene and I never will. I compete more for fun and the challenge.

Springfield does make some nice 1911's, no doubt. Personally for customization I'd probably go with mostly EGW parts as they are a local shop (Quakertown, PA).

@csmith: That is one sexy beast!
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RocketFoot's Minion since 09-07-2012
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#10
You can still get an Eagle in .45 ACP. They just are not as sought after as the other calibers. .45 does not lend itself well to a double stack in a 1911 as compared to the 9mm and .40. Not to say it won't run, but you are more likely to have to work harder to get it there to be 100%.

.40 is the ticket for IDPA ESP and you don't have to change springs. I use a 12lb non-variable spring and an alumabuff across both guns and it will run for both power factors. I change springs....well, pretty much never. I also use a filed down stock STI magwell which fits the box. It's not a bad system at all for Limited and I frequently switch guns just to remind myself to get that front sight focus as the guns track a bit differently.

If you're going to shoot for a few years it won't take long to make back the money by shooting .40 over .45. I had two Kimbers and a G35 before I finally just sold another gun on top of that to get the Eagle (which is what I should have probably done in the first place).
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