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2 Minor Updates to the Rules
#1
This is just another alert to some minor adjustments to the rules found here:

http://www.pa2a.org/misc.php?page=rules

Rule #3 has been adjusted to prohibit all forms of bigotry.

3. Bigotry is prohibited. Do not post anything homophobic, explicitly sexual, anti religious or anti racial. This includes content listed in your username, signature line and profile as well as titles, subject lines and context of threads. We want you to be able to express your feelings while debating issues but we don't want inflammatory remarks, only designed to offend other parties, factions or entities, posted in the forums, this includes sarcastic remarks and one liners about someone's race, religion or other personal beliefs.

Rule #7 has also been revised to cover some copyright issues that may crop up from time to time on our forums:

7. Copyright laws can be vague and difficult for any online media. In order to help avoid any infringement issues, please be sure to cite your source when ever posting news articles or other content from another internet source. Also, be sure to post a blurb or snippet (no less than 10% of the source article) along with the link. This helps forum threads make more sense in case the original posted links change or disappear. This might not always be enough to satisfy some sources but it is a step in the right direction. Please do not duplicate the entire original article as this may exceed protections extended under 'fair use', even when the original source is cited. If we are ever asked to remove copyrighted material, we will have to comply.

As I've mentioned before, we are not becoming more restrictive, we are just trying to provide a fair and consistent set of rules and guidelines to help keep the forums professional, entertaining, informative and inviting to all gun owners and 2nd A supporters despite their backgrounds. As we continue to grow, we need to adjust these rules from time to time.

That is all...please review these revisions as well as the entire rules page. They are clearly posted under the 'Forum Info' tab so there should be no hard feelings when warnings are issued for posted rule violations!
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A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:

Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
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#2
What does homophobic exactly mean to you? Honestly, i find the very term to be an invented liberal slander that is directed at someone that does not approve of the act of homosexuality. It is often used as a bullying tactic, to browbeat and shame a non conformist into accepting homosexual practices that they find distasteful or offensive.

In other words, i find the term itself to be offensive.

Hey, i'm just sayin'.
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#3
Valorius;25740 Wrote:What does homophobic exactly mean to you? Honestly, i find the very term to be an invented liberal slander that is directed at someone that does not approve of the act of homosexuality. It is often used as a bullying tactic, to browbeat and shame a non conformist into accepting homosexual practices that they find distasteful or offensive.

In other words, i find the term itself to be offensive.

Hey, i'm just sayin'.

I think something like this would be fitting:

when it upsets you that a gay person is living their life how they wish and it makes you enraged to spew filth. really what it boils down to is someone caring how another individual decides to live their life and who they wish to love to the point that that is all you think about and how you wish the state would prevent such a thing from occurring.

how's that sound?
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#4
My sig line is in Latin but translates to "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe". Does that count as racist since it's not race specific? Smile
Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum
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#5
Warpt762x39;25816 Wrote:My sig line is in Latin but translates to "Sometimes I get this urge to conquer large parts of Europe". Does that count as racist since it's not race specific? Smile

I think you're fine with that...LOL! Wink
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A Reading from the Book of Armaments, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:

Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
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Valorius;25740 Wrote:What does homophobic exactly mean to you? Honestly, i find the very term to be an invented liberal slander that is directed at someone that does not approve of the act of homosexuality. It is often used as a bullying tactic, to browbeat and shame a non conformist into accepting homosexual practices that they find distasteful or offensive.

In other words, i find the term itself to be offensive.

Hey, i'm just sayin'.

I agree, There is a big different between someone saying we should ship all gays out of the country and saying that they support the traditional meaning of marriage. I also dont see how it would homophobic to state your opostion to kids being taught about homosexuality or discussing gay marriage since its in the news.

What is next saying you dont support amensty for illegals is racist? Oh yeah, they already say that.


I had a buddy that was talking about freedom of speech the other day after I made him aware of a hiatus I got on another board. He mentioned, and I agree with, how ironic it is boards are there about protecting our second amendment rights while taking away first amendment rights.

Now I do realize its a private forum and people are invited. I just think its very ironic. Kind of like how Obama picks and choses which laws he enforces. Just my 2 cents.
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#7
Homophobic isn't even an actual term. There is no physiological condition related to an unreasonable and uncontrollable fear of homosexuality. Besides, most anti-homosexual statements and assertions are opposed to homosexuality, not a non-existent fear of homosexuality. The rules don't prohibit anti-gay statements, only anti-fear-of-gay statements. So, under a literal understanding of the rules as written it is not against the rules to say derogatory or inflammatory things about homosexuals as a group. Why are people with fears of homosexuals singled out and protected from insult anyway?

Following along you state
Quote:This includes sarcastic remarks and one liners about someone's race, religion or other personal beliefs.
By this rule, it's against the forum rules to make a sarcastic remark about someone's chosen mode of carry, or preferred brand of holster. It essentially bans the use of sarcasm entirely.
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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#8
Anti religious or anti racial?

That rule is too ...how to put it. Narrowly universal. Anti religious comments. Does that come down to me saying "I am Catholic, ant Protestant." that insinuates that some part of y belief system shows an attitude of superiority to another religion.

Now I can see why you wouldn't want us saying "religion x is dumb because of reason y".

As for the racial thing. I will continue to use the term black. Not African American. I don't know if that will cause an issue or not.

From what I understand, there are a few people getting uppity and reporting posts for anything they don't agree with.

Rather than put this new location on a downward spiral, how about get rid of those that waste your time, our time, and theirs.

If anyone is so uppity to make a scene over people exceed using with limitations the first amendment. They don't belong on a website that celebrates the 2nd.

Just my .02, I saw the politically correct coddling ruin poofa. I'm not going to turn around in six months to go to another site.
This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. -Ben Franklin
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#9
Connal;28132 Wrote:Anti religious or anti racial?

That rule is too ...how to put it. Narrowly universal. Anti religious comments. Does that come down to me saying "I am Catholic, ant Protestant." that insinuates that some part of y belief system shows an attitude of superiority to another religion.

Now I can see why you wouldn't want us saying "religion x is dumb because of reason y".

As for the racial thing. I will continue to use the term black. Not African American. I don't know if that will cause an issue or not.

From what I understand, there are a few people getting uppity and reporting posts for anything they don't agree with.

Rather than put this new location on a downward spiral, how about get rid of those that waste your time, our time, and theirs.

If anyone is so uppity to make a scene over people exceed using with limitations the first amendment. They don't belong on a website that celebrates the 2nd.

Just my .02, I saw the politically correct coddling ruin poofa. I'm not going to turn around in six months to go to another site.

amen to that
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#10
I like the "If you don't like it, don't read it" approach.

Sure, it's generally better to err on the side of civility, but there's so much perception involved when it comes to politics, religion, and culture.

We gotta be careful about drawing razor-sharp lines of good vs. bad, and we have to be equally careful about painting with the broad brush of generalization.
Regards,
Paradigm
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