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2 teens accused in Beaver Falls killing
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http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/loca...ts-665750/
Quote:2 teens accused in Beaver Falls killing charged as adults
December 10, 2012 10:47 am

Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/loca...z2EhuCGJEz

By Molly Born / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

Two teenagers accused in a weekend shooting death in Beaver Falls will be charged as adults, Beaver County police Chief Charles R. Jones Jr. said this morning.

Todavia S. Cleckley and Marcus Velasquez, both 14, are charged with conspiracy to commit criminal homicide in the killing of 22-year-old Kayla Peterson of Beaver Falls.

Marcus is also charged with criminal homicide, two felony counts of aggravated assault and two misdemeanor counts of reckless endangerment.

"They're armed and dangerous," Chief Jones said. "I'd like to see them off the street."

Ms. Peterson was shot a little after 3 p.m. Saturday outside her home in the 500 block of 13th Street while she was outside with her boyfriend.

One of the teens pulled out a gun and fired a round from across the street after a dispute with the couple over a pack of cigarettes, Chief Jones said.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...an-22.html


Quote:Boys, 14, 'pose with guns on Facebook hours after gunning down young mother'

Two teens on the run from police since killing
One boy 'shot Kayla Peterson, 22, after a fight over cigarettes'
Another boy, 13, already in police custody

Two 14-year-old boys who allegedly shot dead a young mother in an argument over a packet of cigarettes posted pictures of themselves brandishing guns on Facebook hours after the crime.

Police are still searching for Todavia Cleckley and Marcus Velasquez, who will be tried as adults for the murder in Beaver Hills, Pennsylvania on Saturday afternoon.

A third boy, 13-year-old Kyle Goosby, is already in custody and has been charged with conspiracy to commit homicide.

One of the teenagers allegedly shot 22-year-old Kayla Peterson around 3pm on Saturday as she stood outside her home with her boyfriend, William Bailey.

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Absolutely disgusting.
The Second Amendment does not GIVE us the right. It tells the gov they can not infringe our right.
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String em up and hang em high.
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I'm emphatically against treating children the same as adults. I'm watching killer kids right now. If they don't have the ability to comprehend enough to have the rights of adults then they shouldn't be held to the same accountability as adults.
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ExcelToExcel;51285 Wrote:I'm emphatically against treating children the same as adults. I'm watching killer kids right now. If they don't have the ability to comprehend enough to have the rights of adults then they shouldn't be held to the same accountability as adults.

I'm kinda torn.

What do you propose society does with them? I don't think rehab is an option, the thug mentality is too ingrained in them. They cannot be let back on the streets. Juvie would not deter them. What are the options for such young offenders?
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kimba;51289 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;51285 Wrote:I'm emphatically against treating children the same as adults. I'm watching killer kids right now. If they don't have the ability to comprehend enough to have the rights of adults then they shouldn't be held to the same accountability as adults.

I'm kinda torn.

What do you propose society does with them? I don't think rehab is an option, the thug mentality is too ingrained in them. They cannot be let back on the streets. Juvie would not deter them. What are the options for such young offenders?

Lock them up. A life sentence is the amount of time they have been alive at the time they committed the crime. Other values (say 10 years) should equal the amount that time would be to an average persons life span. we live 80 years, most people are probably 20-30 when they go to prison. that's 20% of their remaining life.Roughly. if you're 10 that's 2 years. The jail should be a rehab facility not a typical jail. Society can in-fact afford to pay for this because the other options are not reasonable nor effective.
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That's not FAIR!

Take those pics down and put up the pics of them in their church clothes!!!


This thread is so racist.
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ExcelToExcel;51285 Wrote:I'm emphatically against treating children the same as adults. I'm watching killer kids right now. If they don't have the ability to comprehend enough to have the rights of adults then they shouldn't be held to the same accountability as adults.

They are not children they are monsters and if it were up to me they and their parents would get death by whatever means that the baby's father decides.
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arjohnson;51307 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;51285 Wrote:I'm emphatically against treating children the same as adults. I'm watching killer kids right now. If they don't have the ability to comprehend enough to have the rights of adults then they shouldn't be held to the same accountability as adults.

They are not children they are monsters and if it were up to me they and their parents would get death by whatever means that the baby's father decides.

That's the type of attitude typical of tyrants or as I call them control freaks.
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ExcelToExcel;51308 Wrote:
arjohnson;51307 Wrote:They are not children they are monsters and if it were up to me they and their parents would get death by whatever means that the baby's father decides.

That's the type of attitude of tyrants.

LOL, take a look at the pics again and tell me where you see children.
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arjohnson;51311 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;51308 Wrote:That's the type of attitude of tyrants.

LOL, take a look at the pics again and tell me where you see children.
then youd be okay with them having the right to drink, vote and drive?
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