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Woman, 83, 'gunned down like an animal' by police after SHE called THEM to report an intruder in her home

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ruder.html

Quote:An 83-year-old woman has been shot and killed at her home by a police officer.

Delma Towler, of Altavista, Virginia, was gunned down at around 10pm on Wednesday after calling 911 to report a burglary.

When police arrived, the elderly woman was wandering in the backyard holding a gun.

Officers say they shot her after she repeatedly ignored their requests to drop the weapon.

But her daughters, Madeline Clark and Linda Langford, claim their mother was 'gunned down like she was an animal,' by police.

According to The News and Advance Lynchburg, Towler wasn't wearing her hearing aid or glasses at the time of the incident so may not have been aware that the two officers had been dispatched to her home.

Before police arrived, Towler got her gun - which she'd never used - from her nightstand and fired in the air from her bedroom as a warning.

She then attempted to walk through her backyard to her sister's house, two doors down. But before she made it there, the officer had fired, shooting the elderly woman dead.

Paramedics tried to revive Towler but were unable to save her and she died at the scene.

The officer, who hasn't been named, has been placed on administrative leave, WDBJ7 reported. He is believed to be a veteran with more than 10 years' experience in the force.

Family members are distraught at the woman's death and have vowed to make the police officer pay for the fatal shooting.

It’s not over yet. I’m going to get some justice because our mother did not deserve to die like this... to be gunned down like she was an animal or a criminal,' Langford told The News and Advance.

'If I have to spend every penny, someone’s going to pay. They took my mama.'


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The women insist their mother was in good health and that her mind was sound.They said doctors had tested her mental competency several months ago after she suffered a fall.

'She had a good mind. She was fine,' Langford said.

According to a statement released by Virginia State Police, Altavista officers arrived at the house and 'heard shots fired from within the residence. As the officers took cover, they saw a woman armed with a handgun leave the back of the house.'

Towler's son Robert Barbour said his mother thought somebody was trying to break in and was probably trying to scare any would-be intruders away.

'She's had intruders around there before,' he told WDBJ7. 'She heard some noise and she thought it was somebody out there trying to break in and she shot two or three bullets.'

He added that the officers were wrong to fire at the 83-year-old, even if she wouldn't drop her weapon when they asked.

'Mom ain't gonna hurt no police officer or nobody else. She was a good christian woman and she wouldn't hurt a soul.'

Barbour said his aunt, Margaret David, was waiting for her sister to come inside when she was shot.

'My aunt was holding the door open for her to come in and my aunt said she heard three shots like bang, bang, bang and she went down,' he said.

The Altavista Police Department chief Clay Hamilton said an internal investigation found the officer involved was not at fault as he followed department policy.

But the local police have turned the case over to the Virginia State Police Criminal Investigation’s Police Shooting Investigative Team.

'We’re going to be on a fact-finding mission,' State Police Lt. Keith Keesee told the newspaper, adding that he wasn't sure when they will complete their investigation.

'It takes as long as it takes,' he said.

Officers responded to Towler's 10th Street house after receiving a 911 hang-up call at about 10pm.

State police spokesman Corinne Geller said officers shot Towler after she ignored police commands to drop her weapon and pointed the gun at them.

According to WDBJ7, Towler may have fired a gunshot through her back door, shattering the glass of the sliding door.

Investigators searched Towler's property looking for evidence such as shell casings and damage from gunshots. They also seized digital photos, a digital answering machine message and a bullet fragment from the rear door and authorities previously recovered a handgun.
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#2
Shoot first ask questions later policing at it's finest.
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#3
Huge payday. That wont replace her though.
Very sad.
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#4
Sad situation... but sounds like a lot more fail going on than just that of the police. Perhaps the fall entered into this or not.... but blindly shooting at noises outside your house from inside your house then attempting to get two doors down to your relatives in a panic. At 83 we worry about our parents driving... perhaps we need to evaluate their fitness for firearms ownership as well, case dependant of course.

Now here is the cop.... responding to a 911 hang up.. could be anything..could be nothing.. he gets there and shots start ringing out from inside the house and all of the sudden here is this armed old lady who is not flowing commands drop the gun and is most likely waving it around. What a shitty situation... do you trust that she won't shoot you? Why...because she is old?? But she is confused... and has already shot rounds out of her house at noises and clearly doesn't know who you are... just a totally shitty situation.
steelcityk9cop, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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Very sad situation.

HOWEVER....at 83 I would think you'd have the sense to know, that if you have called the police to help stop a burglar you should not be wandering around in the back yard with a gun drawn???

I'm not willing to immediately bash the police on this. If you have a gun drawn on someone who has it pointed in front of you, and they turn--with it still pointed at you--do you wait until before or after you're shot before you shoot them?

I'd love to hear the rest of you who carry every single day, and in your own homes, defend how you'll be able to determine someone with a gun pointed at you is or isn't a threat in a few seconds, or how you'll just wait until they fire to find out.

And just because someone is old doesn't mean that they're not dangerous. Kill some people when you're 20, and you could be out of jail after serving 50 years time...which puts you at 70, and not everyone who exists jail as an elderly person is a kind sweet old person.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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#6
I understand the heightened response to a shots fired call, but unless the victim raised the gun at the officer or some bystander, there is zero reason to have discharged his weapon.
tolerance for failure meter... LOW
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Ten*K;13931 Wrote:I understand the heightened response to a shots fired call, but unless the victim raised the gun at the officer or some bystander, there is zero reason to have discharged his weapon.

And according to anything the "officers" will ever say publicly, she did. Clearly, otherwise they would not have shot her Angel
stimrob, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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steelcityk9cop;13514 Wrote:Sad situation... but sounds like a lot more fail going on than just that of the police. Perhaps the fall entered into this or not.... but blindly shooting at noises outside your house from inside your house then attempting to get two doors down to your relatives in a panic. At 83 we worry about our parents driving... perhaps we need to evaluate their fitness for firearms ownership as well, case dependant of course.

Now here is the cop.... responding to a 911 hang up.. could be anything..could be nothing.. he gets there and shots start ringing out from inside the house and all of the sudden here is this armed old lady who is not flowing commands drop the gun and is most likely waving it around. What a shitty situation... do you trust that she won't shoot you? Why...because she is old?? But she is confused... and has already shot rounds out of her house at noises and clearly doesn't know who you are... just a totally shitty situation.
I would take cover and try and control the situation verbally, even if it took a few minutes. Obviously the 83yo woman is not the burglar i am there to catch.

If she threatened someone else with the gun, i guess i'd have to shoot her, but i would go way, way, way out of my way to not have that happen.
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#9
Did they make sure to kill her dog too?
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Ya know, in consideration of the facts prior to the arrival of police, this shows that people still need training with firearms. Like: don't fire blindly in to the air... Those bullets are coming back down somewhere, oh... you have a vision/hearing impairment so make sure to put on your hearing aid/glasses, and lastly... call the police and stay on the phone with them... in the damned house... until they get there.

These are prudent guidelines to follow at any age.
tolerance for failure meter... LOW
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