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A common sense approach to gun control ....
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What follows is a blog I came across written in December of 2012. It is a very long editorial that makes a lot of sense. Pour yourself a cup of coffee, relax, have some food for thought.

http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/1...n-control/

A few snippets of what you'll find at the above link.

Quote:Police are awesome. I love working with cops. However any honest cop will tell you that when seconds count they are only minutes away. After Colombine law enforcement changed their methods in dealing with active shooters. It used to be that you took up a perimeter and waited for overwhelming force before going in. Now usually as soon as you have two officers on scene you go in to confront the shooter (often one in rural areas or if help is going to take another minute, because there are a lot of very sound tactical reasons for using two, mostly because your success/survival rates jump dramatically when you put two guys through a door at once. The shooter’s brain takes a moment to decide between targets). The reason they go fast is because they know that every second counts. The longer the shooter has to operate, the more innocents die.

Quote:Gun Free Zones are hunting preserves for innocent people. Period.
Think about it. You are a violent, homicidal madman, looking to make a statement and hoping to go from disaffected loser to most famous person in the world. The best way to accomplish your goals is to kill a whole bunch of people. So where’s the best place to go shoot all these people? Obviously, it is someplace where nobody can shoot back.
In all honesty I have no respect for anybody who believes Gun Free Zones actually work. You are going to commit several hundred felonies, up to and including mass murder, and you are going to refrain because there is a sign? That No Guns Allowed sign is not a cross that wards off vampires. It is wishful thinking, and really pathetic wishful thinking at that.
The only people who obey No Guns signs are people who obey the law. People who obey the law aren’t going on rampages.
I testified before the Utah State Legislature about the University of Utah’s gun ban the day after the Trolley Square shooting in Salt Lake City. Another disaffected loser scumbag started shooting up this mall. He killed several innocent people before he was engaged by an off duty police officer who just happened to be there shopping. The off duty Ogden cop pinned down the shooter until two officers from the SLCPD came up from behind and killed the shooter. (turned out one of them was a customer of mine) I sent one of my employees down to Trolley Square to take a picture of the shopping center’s front doors. I then showed the picture to the legislators. One of the rules was NO GUNS ALLOWED.

Quote:There were four mass killing attempts this week. Only one made the news because it helped the agreed upon media narrative.

Oregon. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter confronted by permit holder. Shooter commits suicide. Only a few casualties.

Texas. NOT a gun free zone. Shooter killed immediately by off duty cop. Only a few casualties.

Connecticut. GUN FREE ZONE. Shooters kills until the police arrive. Suicide. 26 dead.

China. GUN FREE COUNTRY. A guy with a KNIFE stabs 22 children.

And here is the nail in the coffin for Gun Free Zones. Over the last fifty years, with only one single exception (Gabby Giffords), every single mass shooting event with more than four casualties has taken place in a place where guns were supposedly not allowed.

Quote:Every time there is a mass shooting event, the vultures launch. I find it absolutely fascinating. A bunch of people get murdered, and the same usual suspects show up with the same tired proposals that we’ve either tried before or logic tells us simply will not work. They strike while the iron is hot, trying to push through legislation before there can be coherent thought. We’ve seen this over and over and over again. We saw it succeed in England. We saw it succeed in Australia. We’ve seen it succeed here before.

Quote:These people want to make a statement. They want to show the world that they aren’t losers. They want to make us understand their pain. They want to make their peer group realize that they are powerful. They’ll show us. The solution is easy. It’s right there in front of your nose.
If you can kill enough people at one time, you’ll be on the news, 24/7, round the clock coverage. You will become the most famous person in the world. Everyone will know your name. You become a celebrity. Experts will try to understand what you were thinking. Hell, the President of the United States, the most important man in the world, will drop whatever he is doing and hold a press conference to talk about your actions, and he’ll even shed a single manly tear.
You are a star.


So much more at the link
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#2
One of the best, most informative reads I've had in a long time. Thank you very much!
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#3
Hot, important topic, 59 views, one comment, it's no wonder this country's freedoms are being eroded.
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soberbyker;81115 Wrote:Hot, important topic, 59 views, one comment, it's no wonder this country's freedoms are being eroded.

Perhaps people read it and simply had nothing else to add? It's also possible that many of those views were from unregistered users who can't post. I think your assumption about the lack of responses in this thread is inaccurate.

Also, keep in mind that you are posting something pro-gun on a pro-gun forum. People tend to respond to controversy more than something they agree with. Would it make you feel better if a bunch of people just posted "that was a good article, I agree." Wouldn't really make for an interesting discussion.

Just my two cents.
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bac0nfat;81119 Wrote:
soberbyker;81115 Wrote:Hot, important topic, 59 views, one comment, it's no wonder this country's freedoms are being eroded.

Perhaps people read it and simply had nothing else to add? It's also possible that many of those views were from unregistered users who can't post. I think your assumption about the lack of responses in this thread is inaccurate.

Also, keep in mind that you are posting something pro-gun on a pro-gun forum. People tend to respond to controversy more than something they agree with. Would it make you feel better if a bunch of people just posted "that was a good article, I agree." Wouldn't really make for an interesting discussion.

Just my two cents.

Yes, if they actually took the time to read it, but I don't think most people spent the ten minutes it might take to read it and arm themselves with the great info contained within. We are always looking for new things to say to the anti's in our lives, the article was chock full of ideas, some old, but some new too. I think folks who are passionate about the subject would have had to say something, kind of like Velky did. I know I was moved enough to post it, and I read the entire thing, out of character for me, I'm a skimmer and it was very long, but I couldn't push away.

How about you, did you read it, did you enjoy it? or are you just here to complain about my complaint?

These forums are filled with people/posts preaching to the choir, as it were, do you post this in all of those threads too?


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A lot of people (myself included) read the article after it spread across Facebook a couple months ago.
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soberbyker;81122 Wrote:

How about you, did you read it, did you enjoy it? or are you just here to complain about my complaint?

No, because I'm like you Tongue and can't get into a wall of text unless I'm in the right mood for it. But I did read everything in your post, and I bookmarked the link for reading later, if that counts for anything. Shrug

soberbyker;81122 Wrote:
These forums are filled with people/posts preaching to the choir, as it were, do you post this in all of those threads too?



Usually not. I only posted because it sounded like you were frustrated about the ratio of views to comments. It wasn't meant as a complaint, not even remotely. I was just trying to calm you down, you sounded pretty upset when you said, "it's no wonder this country's freedoms are being eroded." The users here care deeply about these issues, but sometimes it just becomes so routine to see another article about gun rights; and intimidating for some when they see that it's a wall of text. It's not that they don't care, it's that they assume that there will be nothing new that they haven't heard before. That could very well be a false assumption on their part, but it doesn't mean they don't care. And it's certainly not the reason this country's freedoms are being eroded.

To put it into perspective: I can almost guarantee that there are many people here who didn't read the article, but HAVE written letters and called their representatives, and showed up to pro-2A rallies, and educated their family, coworkers and peers on the important issues. I'm one of them.

I'm pretty thick-skinned so your comment didn't bother me, but it might have offended some users here.
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Warpt762x39;81126 Wrote:A lot of people (myself included) read the article after it spread across Facebook a couple months ago.

OK, I know the blog was written in December, I mentioned that in the OP, first time I saw or heard of it was today, well yesterday now.

Thought it was a new find. I thought it would be a nice change of pace to talk about, all the different ways to write the POTUS and his misses name is getting old. It's time to get over the fact he made it in for another four years and concentrate on what we can to try to do to keep those in power from eroding our rights anymore than they already have.

Nevermind.
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Nothing wrong with posting it up so those who haven't seen it can read it too. I've posted it on FB a couple different times since I read it. It got something like 750,000 hits in just a couple of weeks. Last I heard it had surpassed 3 million hits.
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bac0nfat;81129 Wrote:~snip~
To put it into perspective: I can almost guarantee that there are many people here who didn't read the article, but HAVE written letters and called their representatives, and showed up to pro-2A rallies, and educated their family, coworkers and peers on the important issues. I'm one of them.

I'm pretty thick-skinned so your comment didn't bother me, but it might have offended some users here.

As am I, just haven't made a rally. I could say the same about part of your comments as well. Yes, I was frustrated, all the BS tin foil hat threads here that get tons of comments vs a truly good read that gets nearly zero.
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