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A gun owner's guide to calling 911 after a shooting
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http://lancasteronline.com/news/local/a-...f6878.html

Quote:"The 911 call is probably the most important phone call that we ever make in our life," said Ohio defense attorney Sean Maloney. "And it's the last phone call I wish you'd ever have to make, because you're not qualified to make that call, because you're suffering from the physio-psychological effects of a threatening encounter.

"You have tunnel vision, loss of fine motor skills. You have hearing deprivation, your adrenaline is racing through your veins, and you're coming down off that.
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I worry about statements my wife and kids may be coerced into making more than anything else.
The law? The law is a human institution...
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#3
Minor children shouldn't be speaking to police without the presence of their parents. You should coach your wife to not speak without an attorney present.
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I've had a Constable offer similar advice while giving a Utah Permit class. He said that you should give the basic information of who you are, where you are, what you look like, that a shooting just took place, and that you were in fear for your life. Don't give details since you likely won't remember them all and your story can get mixed up. Don't say that you shot the guy. Ask to see some medical help since you'll likely be feeling the effects of an adrenaline dump and possibly shock from the situation. Cooperate, but don't incriminate yourself. If it was a good shoot, then it'll come out as one. At the same time, be prepared to get an attorney if things get complicated.

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#5
I've been carrying for many years now and every once in a while I'll read something like this and it makes me questions just how prepared I am to defend myself or a loved one.

A defensive shooting is really two encounters. The first is dealing with the bad guy who means to harm you and the second is dealing with the police (and courts) in the aftermath. The first I feel like I'm prepared to handle but the second frankly scares the hell out of me. The legal system like most of our government is so complicated and filled with pitfalls that the average Joe is really not prepared to deal with it. To even give yourself a chance in that system requires expensive representation and we know the courts are not friendly to gun owners.

I'm really glad Streaker brought this up, it's given me something to think about.
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#6
This is something that GL has brought up many times as well, it's nice to see another attorney, other than the "don't talk to the police guy" saying the same thing, and it making it to the media in the way it did.
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streaker69;134003 Wrote:This is something that GL has brought up many times as well, it's nice to see another attorney, other than the "don't talk to the police guy" saying the same thing, and it making it to the media in the way it did.

Doesn't he also say NOT to call 911 after a shooting?
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#8
Well, this is akin to getting into a vehicle accident. Keep your head together, because the accident is only the beginning of the ordeal. If you mentally role play defensive shootings, what do do afterwards is just as important. We'd like to believe we will be immediately "justified", but I'm sure Zimmerman thought so, too.

Anyone have any thoughts on that firearm use insurance?
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(02-05-2014, 07:37 PM)streaker69 Wrote: Minor children shouldn't be speaking to police without the presence of their parents. You should coach your wife to not speak without an attorney present.

Definitely something I do frequently whenever it comes up in conversation. I still worry though. We've all read enough police horror stories to know what tactics they will resort to in order to get somebody to say something stupid.
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Dave;134009 Wrote:
streaker69;134003 Wrote:This is something that GL has brought up many times as well, it's nice to see another attorney, other than the "don't talk to the police guy" saying the same thing, and it making it to the media in the way it did.

Doesn't he also say NOT to call 911 after a shooting?

I think he said it might be better, in some instances, to NOT call the police. I thought that was a bit....well, stupid. At least for a lawyer to say. The last time I had to draw on someone, I was kicking my ass that I left my phone on the couch. I had to run home, call them, and hope someone else didn't call first. They showed up, talked to me for about ten minutes, shook my hand, and left.
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