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A little help, for Erie OC rally.
#31
Connal;102619 Wrote:Here is the video of the city council meeting.

Dipshit at 17 minutes in, Justin at 24 minutes in.

http://youtu.be/fSo6wU9v_Qg

The junkie at 17 minutes mentions you guys will be quoting the law and are not lawyers, but then goes on to quote the law. Huh

I'm not trying to troll, but you [Justin] could have shaved and wore a suit. Professionalism goes a long in the real world. I have to testify at court often for my job. Technically, I could wear a Scooby Doo t-shirt and bright orange pants on the stand. I wear business attire and stay clean shaven. Guess what? Defense attorneys fear me. The message wasn't too bad, but some of the grammar was off. Next time you are going before politicians, lawyers, etc. dress professionally and be well groomed. Also write down what you want to say, have somebody look it over, and then practice saying it without having to look at your notes as much as possible. You'll garner more respect through fear. Again, I didn't mean to sound like a douche bag or troll. I'm on the complete opposite side of the state, but I wanted to share first hand experiences with you so you can further your cause.
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#32
Here is an update Justin just put out.

Quote:I got BIG NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HAVE GOT MOST OF THE MONEY I NEEDED FROM THE NRA I KNOW I AM SHOCK AS HELL ABOUT THIS. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE FILING THE PAPER WORK TO TAKE THE CITY TO COURT BUT MY LAWYER ASKED THAT PEOPLE TO KEEP DONATING DUE TO WE HAVE NO CLUE HOW HARD THE CITY WILL FIGHT THIS. ANY UNUSED MONEY WILL ETHER GO BACK TO THE NRA OR WILL BE USED TO HELP US OUT THE NEXT TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. PLEASE SHARE THIS AND GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS WE MUST PULL TOGETHER AND HELP MY LAWYER OUT AS HE IS NOW DOING THE PAPER WORK. THIS IS WHY I KEEP POSTING AND MAKING CALLS IT HELPS AS YOU SEE. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE NRA FOR THERE HELP ON THIS IT TRULY GREATFUL OF THIS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND I MAY RUN INTO OTHER COST PLEASE DONATE ANYTHING YOUR WILLING TO HELP WITH AS WE FIGHT THIS STARTING TODAY!!!
PLEASE THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO STAND BY DONATE NOW AND OFTEN. PLEASE STAND WITH ME AS WE FIGHT THE CITY OF ERIE OVER THIS RIDICULOUS ORDINANCE.....

The fight continues. And I want to personally thank everyone who has helped in any way. The suggestions, the kind words, the donations. This is amazing.
This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. -Ben Franklin
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#33
Connal;102675 Wrote:Here is an update Justin just put out.

Quote:I got BIG NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I HAVE GOT MOST OF THE MONEY I NEEDED FROM THE NRA I KNOW I AM SHOCK AS HELL ABOUT THIS. SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE FILING THE PAPER WORK TO TAKE THE CITY TO COURT BUT MY LAWYER ASKED THAT PEOPLE TO KEEP DONATING DUE TO WE HAVE NO CLUE HOW HARD THE CITY WILL FIGHT THIS. ANY UNUSED MONEY WILL ETHER GO BACK TO THE NRA OR WILL BE USED TO HELP US OUT THE NEXT TIME SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAPPENS. PLEASE SHARE THIS AND GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS WE MUST PULL TOGETHER AND HELP MY LAWYER OUT AS HE IS NOW DOING THE PAPER WORK. THIS IS WHY I KEEP POSTING AND MAKING CALLS IT HELPS AS YOU SEE. ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE NRA FOR THERE HELP ON THIS IT TRULY GREATFUL OF THIS. PLEASE UNDERSTAND I MAY RUN INTO OTHER COST PLEASE DONATE ANYTHING YOUR WILLING TO HELP WITH AS WE FIGHT THIS STARTING TODAY!!!
PLEASE THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO STAND BY DONATE NOW AND OFTEN. PLEASE STAND WITH ME AS WE FIGHT THE CITY OF ERIE OVER THIS RIDICULOUS ORDINANCE.....

The fight continues. And I want to personally thank everyone who has helped in any way. The suggestions, the kind words, the donations. This is amazing.

I told you on 05-16-2013 at 01:27 AM you should contact the NRA. Big Grin
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#34
Whenever two or more people conspire to keep a person from their rights it's s felony. A federal law. Seems a judge per se criminal complaint is also an option.
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#35
Philadelphia Patriot;102737 Wrote:
Connal;102675 Wrote:Here is an update Justin just put out.


The fight continues. And I want to personally thank everyone who has helped in any way. The suggestions, the kind words, the donations. This is amazing.

I told you on 05-16-2013 at 01:27 AM you should contact the NRA. Big Grin

I know lol. I am just the middle man. I spread the word between different groups I belong to, trying to get the info out there.

I'm actually not affiliated with Justin. I have met him, I would consider us friends. But I don't help setup the rally or anything.
This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. -Ben Franklin
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#36
Philadelphia Patriot;102621 Wrote:I'm not trying to troll, but you [Justin] could have shaved and wore a suit. Professionalism goes a long in the real world. I have to testify at court often for my job. Technically, I could wear a Scooby Doo t-shirt and bright orange pants on the stand. I wear business attire and stay clean shaven. Guess what? Defense attorneys fear me. The message wasn't too bad, but some of the grammar was off. Next time you are going before politicians, lawyers, etc. dress professionally and be well groomed. Also write down what you want to say, have somebody look it over, and then practice saying it without having to look at your notes as much as possible. You'll garner more respect through fear. Again, I didn't mean to sound like a douche bag or troll. I'm on the complete opposite side of the state, but I wanted to share first hand experiences with you so you can further your cause.

I agree with this, although I don't think it's as important to be clean shaven as it is to dress in a more professional manner and practice your speaking points several times so that you can articulate what you're trying to say without having to frequently refer to notes.

Those kind of things should not be as important as the message, but they are often more important. There are people you're trying to win over who will tune you out entirely if they think you look less than presentable.

The dipshit wore a shirt and tie. He practiced what he was going to say. He was wrong about everything he actually said, but he came off as very polished and that kind of thing is very persuasive to people who don't understand and don't care to take the effort to understand the finer points of fact.

So, I echo the suggestion regarding preparedness for giving public comments and really anything you're doing as a public demonstration.
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#37
Connal;102619 Wrote:Here is the video of the city council meeting.

Dipshit at 17 minutes in, Justin at 24 minutes in.

http://youtu.be/fSo6wU9v_Qg


Jesus. I even stopped listening and turned it off when Justin strolled up to the microphone.

I guess that was better than BDUs, but c'mon. If you don't care enough to be taken seriously, you won't be.
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#38
Boy oh boy.

Justin called me earlier tonight, with alot of news. Some I can share, some I can't. So please, understand that the info I have is a great step forward.

Papers have been filed against the city, for their violation. On that note, that is all I can really say. I have just a tad more info, but it is stuff that is being kept close for now.

The really big news, is we have two confirmed speakers for the rally. A third is in the works, and is a big name as well. But those details are still being hashed out.

The two speakers who are confirmed, I am sure you all have heard of. Chief Mark Kessler. Who has started the Constitutional Security Force. And has been in the news as a LEO who came out and said, if push came to shove, he would take off his uniform, and stand with the people. Justin is scheduled for an interview on Monday on his radio show actually. He hopes to mention the fund raiser, since the NRA is covering 2/3s of the cost. So we still need to raise money.

The second speaker, I am sure some of you have heard of. But not all. Pastor George Cook. I have heard this man speak. And he gets his point across. For those of you, who are not familiar with him. I will embed a video below.

These are just two people who have offered to come speak for us. By putting their foot down, Erie has made this into something so much larger.


http://youtu.be/Y-BvQT5t-wc


And Empty, just to let you know. Justin saw your post, took it to heart. His interview tonight, was done better dressed, and with a hair cut.
This will be the best security for maintaining our liberties. A nation of well-informed men who have been taught to know and prize the rights which God has given them cannot be enslaved. It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins. -Ben Franklin
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#39
Both of these guys are excellent speakers. Now I really want to go. Distance is still the problem. :-)
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#40
hey guys and gals...sorry been busy at work and when tornado went through close to here my boot files crashed. now computer is back up and running. as an update for the finances, Mr Prince is keeping a tab and i will say this, its almost all gone on the first filing. we really can continue to use your help with donations. i have sold over 150$ in 50/50 tickets and a co-worker also just as much. so thats 300$ we raised this week just in 50/50's

http://www.gofundme.com/2wowpw

anything you can give will help!! oh...and bring your bodys too!!!
chrisjp, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Feb 2013.
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