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A modest proposal to help end ammo gouging
#1
What if shooters were to tell the enablers of ammo price-gouging that they'll no longer patronize them unless/until they institute a "no sales of ammo at higher than MSRP plus reasonable shipping and handling (if applicable)?"

That means telling gunbroker.com and the auction sites that so long as they continue to provide the venue for this harmful activity, we won't be bidding on anything on their site. After all they make a percentage of the sale price, so they're profiting from our misery.

That also means letting the organizers of gun shows know that we'll want to see them institute the same sort of policy.

Same with boards like this who have classifieds.

And also let companies like Cheaper Than Dirt know that if they don't knock it off immediately we'll buy nothing from them...ever again.

Finally, it means making a point to patronize sites and organizations that do the right thing.

Rather than communicating to each of the organizations on an individual basis, maybe we could use one of those handy-dandy online petition sites to "take the pledge" not to support sites/venues that enable or engage in the current price-gouging.
gascolator, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Nov 2012.
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#2
I support the free market when it benefits me, and also when it doesn't.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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#3
how about this:



NRA (Life), GOA, FOAC (Life), NAGR, AMGOA

RocketFoot's Minion since 09-07-2012
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#4
^Exactly. Must of it is all self inflicted by idiot gun owners. too soon BigDawgBeav? Wink)
Dave, proudly annoying members of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#5
We are often our own worse enemies and this is no exception.
People have been scarfing up ammo for years now. It's not the dealers, for the most part it's the consumers allowing themselves to be played like a fiddle. The end result is it sucks for the rest of us.
Welcome to ObamaNation part deuxUtg
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#6
I regard this as a very "free market" initiative. Nobody's passing a law.

The gougers are free to continue gouging. Gunbroker.com is free to continue to profit from the gouging.

We, as buyers, are free to create consequences for gouging, or for creating and profiting from the infrastructure that supports it.

We're just adjusting "demand" to apply to suppliers of support services for gouging, and to cover other goods sold by the gouging vendors, and extending the effects of their present behavior to their future demand.

This is no different than telling Staples "no" when they chose to discriminate against a gun store and smith, telling Reed Exhibitions and Dick's Sporting Goods "no" when they pander to the anti-so-called-assault-rifle types, or boycotting other anti-2A businesses.

If firearms-based businesses saw signature from thousands of customers and potential customers who are saying "it's either us, or gouging, which is bad for our sport, take your pick" then we, as the demand side of the free market, can win this game.
gascolator, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Nov 2012.
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#7
It won't work. Just like the idea of boycotting gas stations for a particular day. Everyone will just fill up the next day and nothing is impacted. The only way to get prices down is to reduce demand across the board for an extended period of time, which means everyone has to shoot less.
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#8
to be honest, I reload everything I shoot (exception .22) so the whole ammo thing did not really effect me. Sure, I couldn't get certain powders for a month or 2, but I got by with other powders. I buy bullets when ever I see them on sale, even during the "height" i was finding 500, 150grain .308 tips for $75 0r .223 55gr, 500 tips for $116 shipped. So if everyone would stop paying high prices for the ammo and invest in reloading equipment, you can save a small fortune. A 50 round box of 9mm, 115gr cost me $5.78 a box.
tonyfac, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#9
Are there signs we can carry on street corners?

Otherwise I fear this plan may fail.
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#10
bac0nfat;105447 Wrote:It won't work. Just like the idea of boycotting gas stations for a particular day. Everyone will just fill up the next day and nothing is impacted. The only way to get prices down is to reduce demand across the board for an extended period of time, which means everyone has to shoot less.

I'm not talking a particular day. Or not buying overall on a particular day.

I'm talking about letting auction sites and gun-shows know that until they stop being a venue for ammo gouging, we won't purchase ANYTHING via their venues.

I'm talking about letting the gougers whose outrageous prices appear on gunbot.net know that if they keep it up we'll remember the screwing they gave the shooting community long after the current shortage ends.

Those are long-term and far-reaching market consequences that can make a difference.
gascolator, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Nov 2012.
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