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A whole new meaning to the question "are you printing?"
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Quote:It's beginning to look as if someone doesn't want Defense Distributed to manufacture and distribute the world's first open-source 3D printed firearm, as the company responsible for the 3D printer used to design the prototype has reclaimed its machine for fear of illegality.
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#32
How did they get the equipment from Defense Distributed?
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#33
You can create anything not covered under the NFA for personal use right? You could make your own pistol, rifle, or shotgun and it would be perfectly legal as long as you didn't sell it last I knew... I don't see how this would be different...


-Chaz
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#34
Chazman321;47763 Wrote:You can create anything not covered under the NFA for personal use right? You could make your own pistol, rifle, or shotgun and it would be perfectly legal as long as you didn't sell it last I knew... I don't see how this would be different...


-Chaz

Anyone can make a full auto legally... Type/class 7 license.
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#35
Chazman321;47763 Wrote:You can create anything not covered under the NFA for personal use right? You could make your own pistol, rifle, or shotgun and it would be perfectly legal as long as you didn't sell it last I knew... I don't see how this would be different...


-Chaz

This is true. Chances are the company is rigidly anti-gun and ignorant of facts. Kind of surprising coming from a company with Defense in the name though.
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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#36
Those 3D printers use PVC or other similar plastic/polymer material, don't they? They may be able to reproduce many of the parts but how could they possibly "print" something with that type of material that will withstand the pressure of firing a cartridge or the resistance to wear that requires the durability of regular steel at the least and hardened steel in the high stress and high wear areas?
It sounds like hype and knee jerk reactions to me.
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ByblosHex;47857 Wrote:
Chazman321;47763 Wrote:You can create anything not covered under the NFA for personal use right? You could make your own pistol, rifle, or shotgun and it would be perfectly legal as long as you didn't sell it last I knew... I don't see how this would be different...


-Chaz

This is true. Chances are the company is rigidly anti-gun and ignorant of facts. Kind of surprising coming from a company with Defense in the name though.

Or they know who signs their checks...
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mauser;47943 Wrote:Those 3D printers use PVC or other similar plastic/polymer material, don't they? They may be able to reproduce many of the parts but how could they possibly "print" something with that type of material that will withstand the pressure of firing a cartridge or the resistance to wear that requires the durability of regular steel at the least and hardened steel in the high stress and high wear areas?
It sounds like hype and knee jerk reactions to me.

There are plenty of polymer firearms out there from handguns to AR-14s. The only things that need to be good steel are the barrel and chamber. I don't believe these printers were being used to print barrels or chambers. I question if a rifled barrel could be printed to begin with. I could be wrong though.
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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ByblosHex;48065 Wrote:
mauser;47943 Wrote:Those 3D printers use PVC or other similar plastic/polymer material, don't they? They may be able to reproduce many of the parts but how could they possibly "print" something with that type of material that will withstand the pressure of firing a cartridge or the resistance to wear that requires the durability of regular steel at the least and hardened steel in the high stress and high wear areas?
It sounds like hype and knee jerk reactions to me.

There are plenty of polymer firearms out there from handguns to AR-14s. The only things that need to be good steel are the barrel and chamber. I don't believe these printers were being used to print barrels or chambers. I question if a rifled barrel could be printed to begin with. I could be wrong though.

I'm of the same mindset, I doubt that a barrel could be "printed" and I really doubt that a rifled barrel could be done. I think there are a lot of parts that could be done but not be able to withstand the use they'd get but there are some that I believe just couldn't be done at all and your example of a rifled barrel is a prime example.
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Those who watch things happen,
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ByblosHex;47857 Wrote:
Chazman321;47763 Wrote:You can create anything not covered under the NFA for personal use right? You could make your own pistol, rifle, or shotgun and it would be perfectly legal as long as you didn't sell it last I knew... I don't see how this would be different...


-Chaz

This is true. Chances are the company is rigidly anti-gun and ignorant of facts. Kind of surprising coming from a company with Defense in the name though.
The place with Defense in the name is the company who had their 3D printer repossessed.


As far as printing an entire weapon, with the technology as it is today, it's not possible. The media used just wouldn't stand up. Also, from my research, these things aren't super accurate. IIRC they get down to about a 2mm printing width so anything precision would need to be fit after the fact. Also, due to being printed in layers it makes that plane susceptible to splitting between layers. If parts aren't designed with that taken into consideration it can result in printed pieces literally falling apart during use.

Definitely a neat thing to keep an eye on but the tech isn't quite there yet.
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