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I have a Draco (AK pistol) which someday I'm planning on SBRing... someday. But in the meantime I'd like to have better purchase for my forward hand. I know that a vertical grip is a no-no without the proper paperwork but I've been told that a Magpul angled fore grip is ok. Is there any truth to this or is it just a rumor? And if AFG is allowed could somebody please provide a link to the actual law, mostly so the "experts" at the range don't give me hell about it.
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I considered one for my AR Pistol, but I could never find anything definitive that it would be 100% legal. So, I just put the rubber covers on the rails and left it at that.
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https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0qyloA4...li=1&hl=en#
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Mr_Gixxer;76518 Wrote:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0qyloA4...li=1&hl=en#

Your link appears to be broken.
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silkworm;76521 Wrote:
Mr_Gixxer;76518 Wrote:https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B0qyloA4...li=1&hl=en#

Your link appears to be broken.

It worked for me, and it does say that an AFG is good to go on an AR Pistol. Now if that applies to a Draco, that's another question. Logically, it should be we all know that the ATF doesn't understand logic.
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The weird magpul AFG is legal, but i don't think it does anything useful.
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streaker69;76523 Wrote:
silkworm;76521 Wrote:Your link appears to be broken.

It worked for me, and it does say that an AFG is good to go on an AR Pistol. Now if that applies to a Draco, that's another question. Logically, it should be we all know that the ATF doesn't understand logic.

Hmmm, it's loading fine but just has a header above a blank page. Either way thanks for the help Gixxer.
And yes Streaker, that whole bothersome logic thing is in the way again. Just the fact that the ATF feels that there's only approx. 60 degrees angle difference between "ok" and KILLING MACHINE throws common sense out the window.
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Google is your friend.

That said, this comes up over and over again. Some people claim that grip pods, grip storage etc is legal too but IDK. The thing is, the law on verticals grips is pretty clear. Don't know if that means a horizontal grip is legal then too or not but if we keep asking the ATF over and over again about technicalities then they will surely reword the law to prohibit them.

Here's mine btwBig Grin
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Mr_Gixxer;76530 Wrote:Google is your friend.

That said, this comes up over and over again. Some people claim that grip pods, grip storage etc is legal too but IDK. The thing is, the law on verticals grips is pretty clear. Don't know if that means a horizontal grip is legal then too or not but if we keep asking the ATF over and over again about technicalities then they will surely reword the law to prohibit them.

Here's mine btwBig Grin
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Gixxer that's exactly what I want to do with mine! I figured an AFG with a single point sling would be the tits, thanks for the help.

Yeah, I've been told a couple different things on horizontals as well. Some people claim they are ok, others say don't even think about it. And like you said I feel like if the ATF isn't sure they just tell you no.

And Val I agree that the AFGs aren't really the best, but these AK pistols jump around like a burning cat. I just want anything to help me control it. I've been using the magazine as a forward grip but it still positions my hands too close IMO.
I even thought about using one of those magazine grip add-ons (seen below) but I think they may still be prohibited under the vertical grip ruling.
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Truth be told I don't think a vertical grip on a Draco would work anyway. You would have a tough time getting a magazine in I would assume.
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