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"Fundamental rights don't disappear when we cross state borders, and self-defense is a fundamental right."

Do you agree or disagree with their statement and position? If you disagree, why?

Take a guess at whom made this statement in 2012.
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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#2
Only guessing here.......Ted Nugent....?

Auh , Why has no-one responded ? Something I SHOULD know ?
dman, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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dman;28720 Wrote:Only guessing here.......Ted Nugent....?

Auh , Why has no-one responded ? Something I SHOULD know ?

Nice guess, but, Incorrect!
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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#4
This is one of those questions that can easily end up in a debate about semantics. If you believe in God, than the answer is likely "agree," as you probably believe that rights come from God and never disappear. If you don't believe in God, then where do rights come from? Are they granted by a government? Well if that's the case, then the government can just take them away, right? Then the answer would be "disagree."

Or what if you believe that rights come from within, and consist of whatever we as individuals demand and are capable of protecting? Then I'd say you have the right to do whatever you want, until someone physically stops you from doing it.
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bac0nfat;28741 Wrote:This is one of those questions that can easily end up in a debate about semantics. If you believe in God, than the answer is likely "agree," as you probably believe that rights come from God and never disappear. If you don't believe in God, then where do rights come from? Are they granted by a government? Well if that's the case, then the government can just take them away, right? Then the answer would be "disagree."

Or what if you believe that rights come from within, and consist of whatever we as individuals demand and are capable of protecting? Then I'd say you have the right to do whatever you want, until someone physically stops you from doing it.

I don't believe in god, but I believe some rights are innate, including the right to self preservation. Therefore I agreed with the statement.

Whether or not a government suppresses the rights I'm born with as a human, is another story.

Justin
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#6
Quote:One On One With Governor Mitt Romney

Posted on September 1, 2012

~snip~

Cox: Would you support legislation to provide national reciprocity for Right-to- Carry permit holders so that they can protect themselves when they're traveling outside their home states?

Gov. Romney: Absolutely. Fundamental rights don't disappear when we cross state borders, and self-defense is a fundamental right.

~snip~

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articl...omney.aspx
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bac0nfat;28741 Wrote:This is one of those questions that can easily end up in a debate about semantics. If you believe in God, than the answer is likely "agree," as you probably believe that rights come from God and never disappear. If you don't believe in God, then where do rights come from? Are they granted by a government? Well if that's the case, then the government can just take them away, right? Then the answer would be "disagree."

Or what if you believe that rights come from within, and consist of whatever we as individuals demand and are capable of protecting? Then I'd say you have the right to do whatever you want, until someone physically stops you from doing it.

Fortunately it isn't a debate. It's a statement, as is without further clarification and the simple question, agree or disagree.

soberbyker;28749 Wrote:
Quote:One On One With Governor Mitt Romney

Posted on September 1, 2012

~snip~

Cox: Would you support legislation to provide national reciprocity for Right-to- Carry permit holders so that they can protect themselves when they're traveling outside their home states?

Gov. Romney: Absolutely. Fundamental rights don't disappear when we cross state borders, and self-defense is a fundamental right.

~snip~

http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/articl...omney.aspx

Pooey. You ruined the surprise! Though you are correct! The statement was made by Presidential Candidate Mitt Romney.
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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JustinHEMI;28747 Wrote:
bac0nfat;28741 Wrote:This is one of those questions that can easily end up in a debate about semantics. If you believe in God, than the answer is likely "agree," as you probably believe that rights come from God and never disappear. If you don't believe in God, then where do rights come from? Are they granted by a government? Well if that's the case, then the government can just take them away, right? Then the answer would be "disagree."

Or what if you believe that rights come from within, and consist of whatever we as individuals demand and are capable of protecting? Then I'd say you have the right to do whatever you want, until someone physically stops you from doing it.

I don't believe in god, but I believe some rights are innate, including the right to self preservation. Therefore I agreed with the statement.

Whether or not a government suppresses the rights I'm born with as a human, is another story.

Justin

Just curious, where do you think rights "come from?" Surely they exist, but why? How?

ByblosHex;28751 Wrote:
bac0nfat;28741 Wrote:This is one of those questions that can easily end up in a debate about semantics. If you believe in God, than the answer is likely "agree," as you probably believe that rights come from God and never disappear. If you don't believe in God, then where do rights come from? Are they granted by a government? Well if that's the case, then the government can just take them away, right? Then the answer would be "disagree."

Or what if you believe that rights come from within, and consist of whatever we as individuals demand and are capable of protecting? Then I'd say you have the right to do whatever you want, until someone physically stops you from doing it.

Fortunately it isn't a debate. It's a statement, as is without further clarification and the simple question, agree or disagree.

Why can't it be a debate? Huh
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#9
Of course I voted agree. Doesnt matter to me who said it.
das, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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bac0nfat;28752 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;28747 Wrote:I don't believe in god, but I believe some rights are innate, including the right to self preservation. Therefore I agreed with the statement.

Whether or not a government suppresses the rights I'm born with as a human, is another story.

Justin

Just curious, where do you think rights "come from?" Surely they exist, but why? How?

I'd hate to derail the topic and summon the official forum-haters. Though I'd be happy to answer your curiosity.

bac0nfat;28752 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;28747 Wrote:I don't believe in god, but I believe some rights are innate, including the right to self preservation. Therefore I agreed with the statement.

Whether or not a government suppresses the rights I'm born with as a human, is another story.

Justin

Just curious, where do you think rights "come from?" Surely they exist, but why? How?

ByblosHex;28751 Wrote:Fortunately it isn't a debate. It's a statement, as is without further clarification and the simple question, agree or disagree.

Why can't it be a debate? Huh

It can be a debate. It just isn't.
"As I lay rubber down the street I pray for traction I can keep, but if I spin and begin to slide, please dear God, protect my sweet ride."
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