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#51
dc dalton;90366 Wrote:
Spacemanvic;90358 Wrote:I think you guys will have a better go at it as a directory from which other groups can retrieve information. This could be big.

Look at the site. It's a big, clean database. Does anyone else offer something like this? You can, through this site, provide the ammo other gun owners/groups can use to carry on the fight.
BUT, it's your gig!

Well as you know from working with companies like Lexus Nexus projects can evolve, we are crawling at this point (baby analogy) with under a week live and new thoughts and ideas pop into my head daily. Who the heck knows where this can or will go and what it will look like in a year?

Thanks for the compliments too. I pride myself in my programming and the presentation and you are right, there's a metric shit pile of data behind this thing and it's added to each and ever day ... hell last I looked Google had index over 6000 pages and they haven't even scraped the surface.

[edit] if you look at my previous comment we are working on being able to feed data to the groups and their websites

Exactly, which is why I thought to give you feedback/headsup/birds eye view of the site.
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#52
Sooo... no hat, huh?








Big Grin
#53
Emptymag;90385 Wrote:Sooo... no hat, huh?








Big Grin

Shut Up You!
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#54
dc dalton;90320 Wrote:
Emptymag;90270 Wrote:Speaking of "we", would it be possible to get some background on where this org originated and who "we" is?

If it's all been shared on Facefook, great, but I don't use it.
Just wondering.

I can fill you in on this.

The original idea was mine but was massaged with the help of several friends (and mostly members here or at POOFA)

The reason I came up with the idea was because when I ran nra no (which is now closed BTW) I would constantly get contacts from people that really didn't care for the NRA or were unhappy with how they handled things and the basic question was always 'but what else is there' .... that's what got me thinking about it.

As I mulled it over I kept thinking about the thousands of 'little' groups out there across the country that had no real way of getting information without having to search the internet or forums all the time. I also thought about how these groups as a single unit didn't have much of a voice because of their size.

Also I thought about the fact that a group could have a local issue and they needed support from other like minded groups - how do they get the word out quickly and easily to groups that may be close enough to lend support.

So that was the basic idea. At my birthday party in January I threw the idea out to these other people that were here. I expected them to either tell me I was nuts or the idea had no merit but to my surprise everyone thought on some level it was a good idea. The one that really saw what I meant and jumped right on board was Joe (Headcase). He has worked with us during the entire time to build the idea.

To explain the concept in a nutshell:

1. One place with all the up to date gun laws and proposed legislation that members can track without having to search the internet for them.

2. A place where groups can register themselves and then be able to post announcements, whether political or events that members that are interested in the group (they can add these groups in their member area) can see without having to search (via alerts or their member area). These group postings, once completed by me, will also be available on their group page so the public can view them.

For instance, let's say a group in Williamsport has found an issue with their local government (say no guns in parks) and they want a turnout at the town council meeting. They can post this and others that may or may not be part of the group can find out about it and potentially add more bodies for support.

3. Lastly a way for AMGOA to push information to groups that are registered with us. For instance let's say we find out about a problem with a county government. We can alert all the groups within the county and groups from bordering counties about the problem.

It's basically an information clearing house for gun people and gun groups but along with that it's creating an unintended alliance (hence the name) between these groups. They may not know about each other and hell they may not even agree on all the issues 100% of the time but they are informed about issues and can lend support to each other as they see fit.

At the party I made the analogy of getting support from polar opposite groups like the Pink Pistols and some (for lack of a better term) redneck gun club. They may not agree with each other but there are things they agree 100% about - namely gun rights.

Of course the programming and most of the section ideas I came up with, with some help from fellow programmers that are gun people from Florida and a big gun rights advocate (and client of mine) I deeply respect from Ohio.

As far as running the site right now it's Tootie and I but many others have helped test, made suggestions and helped out over the two months it took to build this. RocketFoot helped out a ton with the logo and the 'branding', if you will. JustinHemi helped in testing, Norm and his wife and FNG19 (from POOFA). There were others but they can call themselves out if they wish.

And of course as this thing grows there will be addition people needed to help manage it.

Hope that's answers the questions, anything I missed just fire away


BTW, thanks for taking the time to post all that.
#55
Spacemanvic;90374 Wrote:
dc dalton;90366 Wrote:Well as you know from working with companies like Lexus Nexus projects can evolve, we are crawling at this point (baby analogy) with under a week live and new thoughts and ideas pop into my head daily. Who the heck knows where this can or will go and what it will look like in a year?

Thanks for the compliments too. I pride myself in my programming and the presentation and you are right, there's a metric shit pile of data behind this thing and it's added to each and ever day ... hell last I looked Google had index over 6000 pages and they haven't even scraped the surface.

[edit] if you look at my previous comment we are working on being able to feed data to the groups and their websites

Exactly, which is why I thought to give you feedback/headsup/birds eye view of the site.

Noted and appreciated

Emptymag;90393 Wrote:
dc dalton;90320 Wrote:I can fill you in on this.

The original idea was mine but was massaged with the help of several friends (and mostly members here or at POOFA)

The reason I came up with the idea was because when I ran nra no (which is now closed BTW) I would constantly get contacts from people that really didn't care for the NRA or were unhappy with how they handled things and the basic question was always 'but what else is there' .... that's what got me thinking about it.

As I mulled it over I kept thinking about the thousands of 'little' groups out there across the country that had no real way of getting information without having to search the internet or forums all the time. I also thought about how these groups as a single unit didn't have much of a voice because of their size.

Also I thought about the fact that a group could have a local issue and they needed support from other like minded groups - how do they get the word out quickly and easily to groups that may be close enough to lend support.

So that was the basic idea. At my birthday party in January I threw the idea out to these other people that were here. I expected them to either tell me I was nuts or the idea had no merit but to my surprise everyone thought on some level it was a good idea. The one that really saw what I meant and jumped right on board was Joe (Headcase). He has worked with us during the entire time to build the idea.

To explain the concept in a nutshell:

1. One place with all the up to date gun laws and proposed legislation that members can track without having to search the internet for them.

2. A place where groups can register themselves and then be able to post announcements, whether political or events that members that are interested in the group (they can add these groups in their member area) can see without having to search (via alerts or their member area). These group postings, once completed by me, will also be available on their group page so the public can view them.

For instance, let's say a group in Williamsport has found an issue with their local government (say no guns in parks) and they want a turnout at the town council meeting. They can post this and others that may or may not be part of the group can find out about it and potentially add more bodies for support.

3. Lastly a way for AMGOA to push information to groups that are registered with us. For instance let's say we find out about a problem with a county government. We can alert all the groups within the county and groups from bordering counties about the problem.

It's basically an information clearing house for gun people and gun groups but along with that it's creating an unintended alliance (hence the name) between these groups. They may not know about each other and hell they may not even agree on all the issues 100% of the time but they are informed about issues and can lend support to each other as they see fit.

At the party I made the analogy of getting support from polar opposite groups like the Pink Pistols and some (for lack of a better term) redneck gun club. They may not agree with each other but there are things they agree 100% about - namely gun rights.

Of course the programming and most of the section ideas I came up with, with some help from fellow programmers that are gun people from Florida and a big gun rights advocate (and client of mine) I deeply respect from Ohio.

As far as running the site right now it's Tootie and I but many others have helped test, made suggestions and helped out over the two months it took to build this. RocketFoot helped out a ton with the logo and the 'branding', if you will. JustinHemi helped in testing, Norm and his wife and FNG19 (from POOFA). There were others but they can call themselves out if they wish.

And of course as this thing grows there will be addition people needed to help manage it.

Hope that's answers the questions, anything I missed just fire away


BTW, thanks for taking the time to post all that.

The concept is REALLY Hard to get out there in a few words, I have been trying to find the time to create a page called 'from the founder' for over a week and haven't had the time ... now that I wrote this out here I have something to start with on that page.

Oh and I will keep you updated on the hats.

RocketFoot does have the vector artwork to do them ... just need to figure out a way to pay for the damn things
#56
I don't want a hat.

I just thought it would be nice to know who was involved in the venture.

A link to a cold, non-interactive website does nothing to motivate me to "join".

Hearing that member X, member Y, member Z, and member B, along with help from members L, T, and O got together and are looking to (fill in the blank) is something that gets me interested.

And send that fucker Headcase my love since he doesn't hang out any more.

Tongue
#57
Emptymag;90402 Wrote:I don't want a hat.

I just thought it would be nice to know who was involved in the venture.

A link to a cold, non-interactive website does nothing to motivate me to "join".

Hearing that member X, member Y, member Z, and member B, along with help from members L, T, and O got together and are looking to (fill in the blank) is something that gets me interested.

And send that fucker Headcase my love since he doesn't hang out any more.

Tongue

I will send him your best ... Joe is going through a really rough time right now. Can't explain it here (if he wanted to he can - not for me to post for him) and he can use our thoughts right about now.
#58
We now have an area for public shooting ranges. We're adding them as we get them in. If you know of one that we don't have let us know and we'll list it.
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#59
Tootie;91888 Wrote:We now have an area for public shooting ranges. We're adding them as we get them in. If you know of one that we don't have let us know and we'll list it.

Public? Like in anyone could shoot there?

I belong to a club, but you have to be a member, or a members guest, to shoot there.
#60
soberbyker;91930 Wrote:
Tootie;91888 Wrote:We now have an area for public shooting ranges. We're adding them as we get them in. If you know of one that we don't have let us know and we'll list it.

Public? Like in anyone could shoot there?

I belong to a club, but you have to be a member, or a members guest, to shoot there.

Yeah these are ONLY state run ranges. We plan a section on non state ranges down the road






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