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#41
39Flathead;39742 Wrote:
Valorius;38515 Wrote:If you have a phone in your hand, and you are attempting to buy ammo at even .01 more than it was on election day....

Put it down, you're being stupid.


See, and i won't sell ammo unless i get retail - minus shipping and tax for it.

Hey, if you can get full blown retail for ammo from some dumbass, then I support that, I'm all for not losing money, but just like I wouldn't pay new price for a set of tools, TV or a car, I'm not paying it for ammo either.

The only possible way I'd even ever consider that is if I were at the range and ran out, and still wanting to shoot someone offered to sell me a couple boxes at replacement cost.
But If I have to drive to a guys house or meet somewhere(where he might leave me hanging anyway) to pay full retail, I might as well support my LGS and keep up the good customer routine.

I once bought a can of .223 from a guy off the internet. I drove 30 miles one way, had to wait for him an hour, bought the ammo and when I got home, found that the stuff on the bottom was reloads.
I saved 10% over new and got about 200 new and 300 reloads for my trouble.
Never again for me.

But hey, if you can sell it that way, keep on doing it, I don't blame you.

There's a trigger finger for every bullet.

Meaning= There is always someone out there willing to buy what you're selling at your price. You just have to find them. Smile
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#42
39Flathead;39742 Wrote:
Valorius;38515 Wrote:If you have a phone in your hand, and you are attempting to buy ammo at even .01 more than it was on election day....

Put it down, you're being stupid.


See, and i won't sell ammo unless i get retail - minus shipping and tax for it.

Hey, if you can get full blown retail for ammo from some dumbass, then I support that, I'm all for not losing money, but just like I wouldn't pay new price for a set of tools, TV or a car, I'm not paying it for ammo either.

The only possible way I'd even ever consider that is if I were at the range and ran out, and still wanting to shoot someone offered to sell me a couple boxes at replacement cost.
But If I have to drive to a guys house or meet somewhere(where he might leave me hanging anyway) to pay full retail, I might as well support my LGS and keep up the good customer routine.

I once bought a can of .223 from a guy off the internet. I drove 30 miles one way, had to wait for him an hour, bought the ammo and when I got home, found that the stuff on the bottom was reloads.
I saved 10% over new and got about 200 new and 300 reloads for my trouble.
Never again for me.

But hey, if you can sell it that way, keep on doing it, I don't blame you.

There's a trigger finger for every bullet.

Meaning= There is always someone out there willing to buy what you're selling at your price. You just have to find them. Smile

I always sell my ammo boxed, and usually either here or on PAFOA, where my rep total, i hope, says: Valorius will not fuck you.

I've done business with a lot of people on here and on PAFOA, and i have never fucked anyone. You can rest assured that if i tell you that you're getting a box of Remington 12ga 3" magnum solid copper sabot slugs purchased at XYZ for XYZ dollars in 2011, that's exactly what you're going to get. Smile

The way i look at it, selling the ammo for retail, but not charging the shipping and/or taxes that i paid for it is actually a pretty significant discount already.
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#43
Question: What's the best website that gives you the most buck for your bang. I should've stocked up before all the madness, but I need 40 S&W and 9mm ammo. Mainly for the range, but I need to get some HP's too. I'm a fool for waiting.

I saw on Cheaperthandirt that they have once fired BVAC bulk ammo for a decent price. Anyone have any experience with that particular type of ammo? Before I go panic buying....
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#44
Blade Runner;39943 Wrote:Question: What's the best website that gives you the most buck for your bang. I should've stocked up before all the madness, but I need 40 S&W and 9mm ammo. Mainly for the range, but I need to get some HP's too. I'm a fool for waiting.

I saw on Cheaperthandirt that they have once fired BVAC bulk ammo for a decent price. Anyone have any experience with that particular type of ammo? Before I go panic buying....

Well a quick search on the Internet yielded some not so good reviews for BVAC. I shoot A LOT of .40 s&w and have found that if my local Walmart carries TulAmmo, it is hard to beat their price for bulk off the Internet. That goes for 7.62x39mm as well. I know some people won't shoot TulAmmo but I have never had a problem with it. You can also try bulkammo.com. Not bad prices.

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#45
The panic buying will ensure that I find other hobbies to spend my cash on for a while. It's a shame...I enjoy recreational target shooting...but I'm only willing to dump so much cash on a box of ammo. Shrug
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#46
Last Resort;40036 Wrote:The panic buying will ensure that I find other hobbies to spend my cash on for a while. It's a shame...I enjoy recreational target shooting...but I'm only willing to dump so much cash on a box of ammo. Shrug

Reloading is a good hobby.
It's a bit of an investment but it's worth it in the long run if you can concentrate and follow basic instructions. If you want to get advanced and start making precision rifle ammo it can become an obsession.
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#47
I am only short stocked on .45 and i gotta say, what is going on right now is absolutely crazy. You cant touch a 1k rds. of decent 9mm, .45acp, .223/.556 for any decent price right now. not to mention most places are simply n/a.


Why do buyers do this to the market? We as shooters are oficially screwed on ammo prices for minimum of a year and probably a lot longer
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch: Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote. - Benjamin Franklin
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#48
I just figured i would add this. Thearmory.com sent me an email on Nov. 3rd they had 1k rd case of aguila .45acp on sale for $297 that same case today is $340. To make things worse the title of the email is NOVEMBER AMMO SALE!

This kind of gouging should be illegal and the armory has now lost all of my future business. Not to mention they are right in line with Cheaper than dirt on shipping price raping
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch: Liberty is a well armed lamb contesting the outcome of the vote. - Benjamin Franklin
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#49
Blade Runner;39943 Wrote:Question: What's the best website that gives you the most buck for your bang. I should've stocked up before all the madness, but I need 40 S&W and 9mm ammo. Mainly for the range, but I need to get some HP's too. ....

Try this, great tool for clearing through the high priced raconteurs.

http://gun-deals.com/ammo

Can't tell you how many apparently "good deals" I found that were debunked by gun-deals.com
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#50
Along with .44 and .357mag/.38spec, .45ACP is one of the easiest handgun calibers to reload.

I'd never buy factory .45 ammo unless is was at a 50% discount.


You can buy a hand press that does not even need a bench along with a hand priming tool. (I just noticed LEE has discontinued the hand press but there has to be some out there)
Also, the old fashioned LEE Loader can be had for many rifle calibers and you use your fired brass, the die and a hammer. http://leeprecision.com/reloading-kits/lee-loader-rifle About $40 and you can have all the tools needed to reload your hunting loads. (not recommended for use in semi's)
Get a couple books and read up.
A small investment in reloading can save you money and the hassle of these political upheavals in supply.

One place just had a deal on 124grn lead 9mm bullets, 3000 for $145 shipped.
Figure $90 for 3000 primers (or less)
$40 (or less) for 2 lbs of powder.

$275 plus your time for 3000 rounds of target ammo.

Tula at Walmart would run you $600 plus tax for those 3000 rounds.

I do buy 9mm, but I keep enough supplies on hand to load 5000 if need be, I never buy .44mag, .357mag or .45ACP.


.45acp would be slightly higher, I think the last time I did up 1000 it was about $125.

With a hand press and hand priming tool, the savings on the first batch of 1000 would pretty much pay for the tools.


Used presses are also a good way to go.
I just passed up on an older progressive Dillon with 4 caliber plates/dies for $250 all ready to go that even included some supplies.


It's often harped on but bears repeating, reloading is the way to go.
Some people need to read this book: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1936976021/ref=...jwbZH1GAZF

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