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Ammunition and fires.
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I just got this from a Canadian friend and I want to share it here, it seems like Ammunition and reloading should be an appropriate place to post it.
I did a search and didn't see it posted anywhere else here. As always, if it's in the wrong place or already posted I won't be offended if it's moved, deleted or merged.

Here's a professionally done video that dispels myths and shows the truth about sporting ammunition in various situations including fire as well as many extreme scenarios not involving fire.

It's not an amateur production, it was professionally done by SAAMI, (Sporting Arms and Ammunition Manufacturers Institute Inc.) and uses commercially available ammo as well as real fire, real firefighters, a lot of time, effort and money's worth of ammo.
In one demonstration alone they used 115,000 rounds of current production retail ammo of many different calibers, cartridges and manufacturers.

Here is a link to the video on the SAAMI web site:
http://www.saami.org/videos/sporting_amm...ighter.cfm

And on Youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pla...SlOXowwC4c
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#2
This is something that I thought about previously in storing ammo and if your house catches fire. Since I know many of the FF's that would actually respond to my house, if I were home during a fire, I'd make it a point of telling them exactly where the ammo is in the house so that area could possibly be doused with water and prevent explosions. My ammo is safe from damage from water, so dousing the area wouldn't hurt it.

Not saying that I wouldn't tell if I didn't know the FF's responding, just that when you know them, you have a tendency to have a little more concern.
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#3
Something I'd like to see addressed is what would happen to a brick of 1000 primers in a fire.

I'm not up for the experiment myself and I'd rather watch it from the comfort of my living room without it being a live experience. (That wouldn't be very comfortable).

A lot of reloaders will have more than one brick of primers on their shelf or in their cabinet. I can't imagine that being as benign as 1000 rounds of loaded ammo. Not to mention most reloaders will have a few pounds of powder somewhere near their ammo and other components.
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mauser;46336 Wrote:Something I'd like to see addressed is what would happen to a brick of 1000 primers in a fire.

I'm not up for the experiment myself and I'd rather watch it from the comfort of my living room without it being a live experience. (That wouldn't be very comfortable).

A lot of reloaders will have more than one brick of primers on their shelf or in their cabinet. I can't imagine that being as benign as 1000 rounds of loaded ammo. Not to mention most reloaders will have a few pounds of powder somewhere near their ammo and other components.

If the primers are not separated well enough and just in a big box and thrown in at the same time...............mass detonation. Had a subcontractor that learned the hard way, when someone who has burned over 9 million rounds tells you " I don't think that's a good idea" LISTEN TO HIM.
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#5
That video was hard to watch. Very informative though.
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EODguy;47238 Wrote:
mauser;46336 Wrote:Something I'd like to see addressed is what would happen to a brick of 1000 primers in a fire.

I'm not up for the experiment myself and I'd rather watch it from the comfort of my living room without it being a live experience. (That wouldn't be very comfortable).

A lot of reloaders will have more than one brick of primers on their shelf or in their cabinet. I can't imagine that being as benign as 1000 rounds of loaded ammo. Not to mention most reloaders will have a few pounds of powder somewhere near their ammo and other components.

If the primers are not separated well enough and just in a big box and thrown in at the same time...............mass detonation. Had a subcontractor that learned the hard way, when someone who has burned over 9 million rounds tells you " I don't think that's a good idea" LISTEN TO HIM.
I can attest to that. I had a filled primer tube (dillon 650xl) ignite once while reloading. It destroyed the entire priming system, and damn near shot the low primer alarm rod through my ceiling.
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#7
Primers are impact detonated.
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#8
Warpt762x39;47287 Wrote:Primers are impact detonated.

You are correct, their design and intent is to detonate by impact but that's not the only they'll detonate.

Have you ever put one in a fire?
Let me demonstrate. (I have to hurry to get this done before my wife gets home).

First we'll attach a primer to a long thin piece of stainless steel;

[Image: Primer.jpg]

Next we'll light a candle, my son and I will utilize ear and eye protection, he'll turn on the video recorder and we'll see what happens to a single primer when I introduce it to fire;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYp8-s18z...e=youtu.be
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#9
Small pistol primers are pretty neat to shoot out of a bb gun. (pistol) Target should be hard i.e. concrete wall
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#10
That's not at all I was expecting. I thought it would be much more intense.
Learn something allt he time I guess. Hmmm...?
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