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Ammunition and fires.
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dman;47353 Wrote:That's not at all I was expecting. I thought it would be much more intense.
Learn something allt he time I guess. Hmmm...?

That was just a single small pistol primer.
My point was to show that percussion/impact isn't the only way to detonate a primer. I'd like to see what a brick of properly packaged primers would do in a fire. I'm not going to perform that experiment. I have plenty of primers from pulled down ammo that I'd be willing to throw into a fire and I'd be willing to donate one pack of 100 properly packaged primers to see the result. Maybe I can make that happen this weekend.

(By the way, that was a small pistol primer from a pulled down case that had been tumbled as an empty but primed case for about 16 hours).
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#12
Detonation of properly stored primers in a fire situation is not that dramatic. They don't normally all go off at once, scattering the primers around some.
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#13
Thanks for posting I learned something today that I actualy wanted to understand better. I am heart broken that all that ammo was just burned up.
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#14
That video made me sad.
Sad
All that wasted ammo.

I learned all that years ago during Basic Firefighting, Structural burn and rescue classes.

When I was inside a burning home around my area, I was more concerned about a guys handgun lying in a drawer and the round in the chamber cooking off than his boxes of ammo in the bottom of his gun cabinet.

Same goes for vehicle fires, the handgun lying in the glovebox.

I have been in many structure fires where you hear the popcorn popping sound coming from the master bedroom. Mostly boxes of .22 going off.

Only once did I get surprised and it was when we first arrived to a fully involved structure fire. The place was beyond any entry and as we started to set up a ground monitor there was a pretty good sized kaboom.
Found out later the owner kept about 8lbs of blackpowder in a large ammo can inside a steel storage cabinet.
Made quite the boom and I'm damn glad nobody was inside.
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39Flathead;47487 Wrote:That video made me sad.
Sad
All that wasted ammo.

I learned all that years ago during Basic Firefighting, Structural burn and rescue classes.

When I was inside a burning home around my area, I was more concerned about a guys handgun lying in a drawer and the round in the chamber cooking off than his boxes of ammo in the bottom of his gun cabinet.

Same goes for vehicle fires, the handgun lying in the glovebox.

I have been in many structure fires where you hear the popcorn popping sound coming from the master bedroom. Mostly boxes of .22 going off.

Only once did I get surprised and it was when we first arrived to a fully involved structure fire. The place was beyond any entry and as we started to set up a ground monitor there was a pretty good sized kaboom.
Found out later the owner kept about 8lbs of blackpowder in a large ammo can inside a steel storage cabinet.
Made quite the boom and I'm damn glad nobody was inside.
I'm sure a round cooking off in a chamber is just the same as being fired. The good thing is its only oneWink
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#16
bogey1;47609 Wrote:I'm sure a round cooking off in a chamber is just the same as being fired. The good thing is its only oneWink

A few years ago there was a story out about a woman that had was storing her pistol in the oven to keep it away from the kids. Grandma came over and turn on the oven to bake something. Never checked the oven for anything inside. The round cooked off fired through the oven and into the next room almost striking the kid. The gun then jammed because it didn't have anything to recoil against.
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#17
Knowing this maybe a metal chest might be a wise idea for ammo storage?
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streaker69;47616 Wrote:
bogey1;47609 Wrote:I'm sure a round cooking off in a chamber is just the same as being fired. The good thing is its only oneWink

A few years ago there was a story out about a woman that had was storing her pistol in the oven to keep it away from the kids. Grandma came over and turn on the oven to bake something. Never checked the oven for anything inside. The round cooked off fired through the oven and into the next room almost striking the kid. The gun then jammed because it didn't have anything to recoil against.

Happens all the time especially with machine guns. My gun jammed one day after i ran 150 continuous rnds through it. I started to panic because i had to open the top cover to undo the jam. The hell with that, i just pulled a bullet from the nearest link towards the receiver in case of a cook off. It never happened.
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LifeInPa;47685 Wrote:Knowing this maybe a metal chest might be a wise idea for ammo storage?

Actually, a heavy wooden chest might be better as it can take a while to burn through and the wood might actually insulate the ammo inside from the heat.

Blackpowder is recommended to be stored in a heavy wooden chest.

I know a guy that stores his ammo in an old fridge. Easy to add a simple lock to keep kids out.
Put a desiccant pack inside or better yet a golden rod.

I've never seen a structure fire where the contents of the fridge caught fire.
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#20
Find an older cooler with a lock on it. Works about the same as the wooden crate.
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