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An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power
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This just scrolled across my FB news feed. Interesting, and despite the title gives info on rifles and shotguns as well.

An Alternate Look at Handgun Stopping Power

Quote:Over a 10-year period, I kept track of stopping power results from every shooting I could find. I talked to the participants of gunfights, read police reports, attended autopsies, and scoured the newspapers, magazines, and Internet for any reliable accounts of what happened to the human body when it was shot.

I documented all of the data I could; tracking caliber, type of bullet (if known), where the bullet hit and whether or not the person was incapacitated. I also tracked fatalities, noting which bullets were more likely to kill and which were not. It was an exhaustive project, but I'm glad I did it and I'm happy to report the results of my study here.
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.44 magnum.. Wonderful I have to rip my arm off to stop someone Smile
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If you really look at those numbers, the .380 is pretty hard to argue against as the best all around self defense caliber when you take into account the concealable size and convenience of the platforms available in that caliber.

I love my Ruger LCP and have no doubt that the 80gr+P solid copper Buffalo Barnes ammo i carry will cause very lethal wounds with good shot placement.
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Valorius;70654 Wrote:If you really look at those numbers, the .380 is pretty hard to argue against as the best all around self defense caliber when you take into account the concealable size and convenience of the platforms available in that caliber.

I love my Ruger LCP and have no doubt that the 80gr+P solid copper Buffalo Barnes ammo i carry will cause very lethal wounds with good shot placement.

Based on this data there is no denying that the 380 is right up there along side all the other popular calibers. I've been toying with the idea of carrying a backup gun lately and had considered the 380 an option but definitely not at the top of my list. After seeing this I will be giving it more careful consideration.
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Interesting information, but I wish it would break down more factors such as comparing ball ammo (FMJs) deaths vs. self defense ammo deaths for each caliber. If you were only to look at statistics involving SD rounds, I wonder how much difference there would be when comparing all of the rounds. I'm surprised at how well the .22LR and .380 performed. Like Val, I too carry the 80gr+P solid copper Buffalo Barnes ammo in my LCP. At close range (under 10 feet), I feel very confident carrying my LCP, but I rather carry my Glock 19 most times because I feel more confident in my marksmanship with my G19 in case I randomly walked into an active shooter incident.
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I am surprised to see that .40 s&w performed better then both 9mm.
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The Hobbit;70696 Wrote:I am surprised to see that .40 s&w performed better then both 9mm and .45 acp.

I went to my local shooting range a week ago and overheard one of the employees talking to a customer. I forget who brought in the car door(s), but they shot a 9mm, .40, .45, and a few other calibers (maybe .357 magnum, .38 special, etc.). Anyways, he said the .40 was the only round that didn't punch through the car door. Don't shoot the messenger (directed towards every body here), but I am just repeating what I over-heard.
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Those numbers are way incomplete. This really isn't enough information to glean true results from. That was only 1,785 shootings, they were not broken down by police, self defense, homicide, etc., and more interestingly it was not broken down by level of training. I was trained to continue to fire until the bad guy was down for good, with no chance of his bouncing up and firing. So I am liable to put more rounds into someone whether I need to or not and it wouldn't matter if I was using a .45, a .357 mag, a .44 mag or a 9mm.
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Philadelphia Patriot;70698 Wrote:
The Hobbit;70696 Wrote:I am surprised to see that .40 s&w performed better then both 9mm and .45 acp.

I went to my local shooting range a week ago and overheard one of the employees talking to a customer. I forget who brought in the car door(s), but they shot a 9mm, .40, .45, and a few other calibers (maybe .357 magnum, .38 special, etc.). Anyways, he said the .40 was the only round that didn't punch through the car door. Don't shoot the messenger (directed towards every body here), but I am just repeating what I over-heard.

No I have heard that it is the least effective of the big three, but according to this it is superior. Also I dont expect to be shooting through car doors in a SD situation.
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Philadelphia Patriot;70698 Wrote:I went to my local shooting range a week ago and overheard one of the employees talking to a customer. I forget who brought in the car door(s), but they shot a 9mm, .40, .45, and a few other calibers (maybe .357 magnum, .38 special, etc.). Anyways, he said the .40 was the only round that didn't punch through the car door. Don't shoot the messenger (directed towards every body here), but I am just repeating what I over-heard.

First I've heard of that problem, but I'm not exactly in the know on the subject either. The only talk I've ever seen of a .40 round with penetration issues was the Hornady Critical Defense. Makes me very curious.

The Hobbit;70700 Wrote:No I have heard that it is the least effective of the big three, but according to this it is superior. Also I dont expect to be shooting through car doors in a SD situation.

I thought that as well until I read about a SD shooting where somebody was being pulled out of their car by a perp via the window and fired shots through the door. That was the day I stopped carrying the Hornady Critical Defense mentioned above.

I'm far from a .40 fanboy, I'm always interested to hear about shortcomings with the caliber or where it excels. Usually the negative stuff I see can easily be written off as "neutered 10mm" bashing. After reading both of the above quoted posts though it makes me want to start digging for substantiated dirt on the caliber....not that I'm eagerly looking to change my carry setup.
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