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And another PA duty to report lost or stolen law
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How many times are they going to try this one?

Quote:Amending Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania
Consolidated Statutes, in firearms and other dangerous
articles, providing for report of theft or loss of a firearm.
The General Assembly of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania
hereby enacts as follows:
Section 1. Title 18 of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes
is amended by adding a section to read:
§ 6115.1. Report of theft or loss of firearm.
(a) Duty to report.--Any owner or other person lawfully in
possession of a firearm who suffers the loss or theft of a
weapon shall within 24 hours of the discovery of the loss or
theft report the facts and circumstances of the loss or theft to
the police department having jurisdiction where the loss or
theft occurred. The person making the report shall provide the
following information:
(1) Name and permanent address of the owner.
(2) Name of the manufacturer and importer.
(3) Model.

http://amgoa.org/Proposed-Pennsylvania-G...e-Law/8869
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#2
I'm sorry... I don't get it. What is the problem with informing if a firearm is lost or stolen? You would need a police report for any sort of insurance claim. If you lawfully own guns you would want to report a lost or stolen firearm, wouldn't you?
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bigdawgbeav;93597 Wrote:I'm sorry... I don't get it. What is the problem with informing if a firearm is lost or stolen? You would need a police report for any sort of insurance claim. If you lawfully own guns you would want to report a lost or stolen firearm, wouldn't you?

It's the 24 hour deadline that's the HUGE problem.
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dc dalton;93600 Wrote:
bigdawgbeav;93597 Wrote:I'm sorry... I don't get it. What is the problem with informing if a firearm is lost or stolen? You would need a police report for any sort of insurance claim. If you lawfully own guns you would want to report a lost or stolen firearm, wouldn't you?

It's the 24 hour deadline that's the HUGE problem.

I see... but it does say "of the discovery". While yes it could have been lost for a week, but you can't be held liable for that week can you? Or would that remain to be seen?
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bigdawgbeav;93605 Wrote:
dc dalton;93600 Wrote:It's the 24 hour deadline that's the HUGE problem.

I see... but it does say "of the discovery". While yes it could have been lost for a week, but you can't be held liable for that week can you? Or would that remain to be seen?

Watch how something like that would be enforced in Philly, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Erie, Wilkes-Barre, Scranton, shall I go on?
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bigdawgbeav;93597 Wrote:I'm sorry... I don't get it. What is the problem with informing if a firearm is lost or stolen? You would need a police report for any sort of insurance claim. If you lawfully own guns you would want to report a lost or stolen firearm, wouldn't you?

Reporting a firearm lost/stolen is a good idea, and I would recommend it if you ever want to get your gun back. However, making it mandatory is a violation of the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments.

This is just another law addressing a victimless crime, and turns law abiding citizens into criminals. If you have a gun stolen and don't report it, you are now a criminal. How is there anything good about that?

In addition to all of that, this will do absolutely nothing to prevent crime.
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#7
The other problem with the "mandatory report" is that sometimes losing a gun or having one stolen is abused by the Sheriff or Police Chief as a reason to revoke the LTCF.

Can you imagine losing your drivers license because somebody stole your car?
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#8
And how can they effectively enforce this without a registration. To help the police and all. Rolleyes

And good luck proving that you did not know the firearm was stolen from your collection that was locked in a safe a month ago when you were not out of the area the entire time. Guess who gets a criminal record...
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bigdawgbeav;93605 Wrote:
dc dalton;93600 Wrote:It's the 24 hour deadline that's the HUGE problem.

I see... but it does say "of the discovery". While yes it could have been lost for a week, but you can't be held liable for that week can you? Or would that remain to be seen?

Why do we need another law. You would report a lost or stolen gun today wouldn't you? Will this law change that?
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