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Another .22LR wanted - this time a Ruger semi-auto
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While my .22LR revolver quest develops, I'm definitely in the market for a semi as well. .22LR is far and away the preferred choice of my two daughters, and to that end, I want to get a semi-auto for them.

I've already decided that I want a Ruger "Mark" series, but which "Mark" should I get, and why?
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I would say any of the mark series because the controls are in the same place that the 1911 are
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gnbrotz;92280 Wrote:While my .22LR revolver quest develops, I'm definitely in the market for a semi as well. .22LR is far and away the preferred choice of my two daughters, and to that end, I want to get a semi-auto for them.

I've already decided that I want a Ruger "Mark" series, but which "Mark" should I get, and why?

Can't go wrong with the mark II.
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goofin;92289 Wrote:I would say any of the mark series because the controls are in the same place that the 1911 are

Somewhere along the way I thought someone told me that "The Mark IIs are more reliable than the Mark IIIs", or some such. Since I don't know much about the series, other than that in general they are very popular, I figured I try to gather more info before making a purchase, especially since I don't have any qualms about considering used items.
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Where are you finding ammo for these .22s?
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TheWolff;92293 Wrote:Where are you finding ammo for these .22s?

In my stockpile, location undisclosed.
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I used to have a Mark III 22/45 with 5.5" bull barrel, excellent shooting gun wasn't real finicky with ammo either. The reason I say used to have, take down. Some people have no trouble and I guess with enough practice it can become easier but I thought getting the gun back together sucked ass and got rid of it.
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TheWolff;92293 Wrote:Where are you finding ammo for these .22s?

gnbrotz;92295 Wrote:
TheWolff;92293 Wrote:Where are you finding ammo for these .22s?

In my stockpile, location undisclosed.

And that may be the only place you do find some for quite some time. At the last exec meeting at my gun club the guy who purchases ammo for the club said he talked to Remington and was told they are tooled for 9mm right now, the Fed has a huge order, then local police and until they get caught up there they won't be making any 22lr for a while. I'm guessing other manufacturers are going through the same thing.
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soberbyker;92296 Wrote:I used to have a Mark III 22/45 with 5.5" bull barrel, excellent shooting gun wasn't real finicky with ammo either. The reason I say used to have, take down. Some people have no trouble and I guess with enough practice it can become easier but I thought getting the gun back together sucked ass and got rid of it.

I have hear that (both that it can be difficult, and not that bad once you get used to it).

I treat my guns like work horses, and don't get hung up on having them pristine at all times, so I don't tear them down on any strict schedule. If a gun won't function in line with those habits, it's out the door, though I have yet to have any issues, so I guess I'm caring for them 'good enough'.
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gnbrotz;92280 Wrote:While my .22LR revolver quest develops, I'm definitely in the market for a semi as well. .22LR is far and away the preferred choice of my two daughters, and to that end, I want to get a semi-auto for them.

I've already decided that I want a Ruger "Mark" series, but which "Mark" should I get, and why?

The Mark II gets high marks from the purists, the Mark III is more...modern. The Mark III is offered with a fluted barrel, which goes a long way to alleviate the nose-heavy feel of the bull barrel models. It also has a fiberoptic front sight, the Mk IIs are plain iron sights.

I have two 678G (MK II, 6 7/8" heavy barreled, Gov't models) and a Mark III. All three are bull barreled 6 7/8". The Mark IIs are more accurate than the III, but the IIs are also G variants. The III is not.

If you're planning to install aftermarket sights (holo, scope, whatever) the III will do this right out of the box. The Mark IIs & earlier will require drilling & tapping, which affects resale value.

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Mk III Hunter, 6 7/8". Grips are replacements, the originals were cocobolo and I was concerned about exposure to oil and moisture.

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KMK-678G (Mk II pattern) in factory case and extra magazine. Note unfluted barrel, conventional sights and lack of loaded chamber indicator.

The big difference between the II & III is the loaded chamber indicator, magazine release relocated and an added internal lock. I've heard a fair number of complaints about each of these features, from my experience using IIs and a III side by side...none of these are dealbreakers.

KMK-678Gs were very difficult to find before the Newtown/Sandy Hook madness. I found this one because it was mis-listed as a regular Mark II.

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Mark II KMK-678G (top), Mark III Hunter (bottom).

At the range they ate everything short of twigs & rocks. I did have about 2% misfires, but I assume this was an ammunition issue. I did notice a substantial difference in accuracy at 100 yards. I could easily hit a bowling pin with the 678G, I don't recall hitting it once with the III.

Survival tip: go for lower maintenance & go for stainless.

Note: magazines won't interchange between the II & III. Speaking of magazines, run to the store and buy a McFadden 22 pistol magazine loader:

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/523189/...ymer-clear

I have not tried the 22/45, or the pencilweight barreled Ruger models.

gnbrotz;92304 Wrote:....

I have hear that (both that it can be difficult, and not that bad once you get used to it).

I treat my guns like work horses, and don't get hung up on having them pristine at all times, so I don't tear them down on any strict schedule. ...

This has been my experience with the Rugers as well. I practiced a few times until I got the hang of it. After my third Ruger 22 auto, I noticed one will give a real fight before the upper receiver/barrel extension separates from the grip frame, another practically hands it to me at the mere suggestion of cleaning.
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