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Another parent arrested at a school board meeting...
#51
ExcelToExcel;143028 Wrote:Hey.. so I have to pay into it so I should use it, same mindset as people in welfare

Let me know how turning in your social security payments goes when you hit 62, unless you're going to hold out for 67 or 70 to make sure you collect a bigger check.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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#52
Camper;143035 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;143028 Wrote:Hey.. so I have to pay into it so I should use it, same mindset as people in welfare

Let me know how turning in your social security payments goes when you hit 62, unless you're going to hold out for 67 or 70 to make sure you collect a bigger check.

Lol... I cannot collect until 68/70... ,and.let's be realistic here, it won't be available. So try again. Heck they will probably steal from my retirement accounts to pay for some people's social security...

I love the deflection to. Hey im on welfare but I bet years down the road you'll be on it to. Lol.. hey your on cuty sewer and that's supplemented, hey let me get a septic system and save my money..
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#53
ExcelToExcel;143051 Wrote:I love the deflection to.

Instead of deflection I see more reasons why they don't take you all that seriously Tongue
Dave, proudly annoying members of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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#54
ExcelToExcel;143027 Wrote:Hey.. so I have to pay into it so I should use it, same mindset as people in welfare, because that's what public education is, welfare. You send you kids to private school, good for you, but thinking im going to sing your praises because you're doing what you are supposed to be doing is like celebrating a guy that puts a roof over his kids heads and feeding them. You get no medals for doing the right thing.. that's what is expected from you if you give a fuck about your kids.
You might want to talk to someone about your bitterness over this. You pay taxes, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE so do we. You dont get a medal or a pat on the back for doing what the rest of us do either. If you are so unhappy quit your job start using drugs knock up a couple of women and go on welfare.Tongue We are so far off topic from the OP we are lost in here.
das, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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das;143064 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;143027 Wrote:Hey.. so I have to pay into it so I should use it, same mindset as people in welfare, because that's what public education is, welfare. You send you kids to private school, good for you, but thinking im going to sing your praises because you're doing what you are supposed to be doing is like celebrating a guy that puts a roof over his kids heads and feeding them. You get no medals for doing the right thing.. that's what is expected from you if you give a fuck about your kids.
You might want to talk to someone about your bitterness over this. You pay taxes, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE so do we. You dont get a medal or a pat on the back for doing what the rest of us do either. If you are so unhappy quit your job start using drugs knock up a couple of women and go on welfare.Tongue We are so far off topic from the OP we are lost in here.
Not really. I hate the hypocrisy of complaining about a service one is getting basically at a greatly reduced rate from others hard work. If you're going to complain, go take your kids to a private school or home school, it really is that simple.

Dave;143058 Wrote:
ExcelToExcel;143051 Wrote:I love the deflection to.

Instead of deflection I see more reasons why they don't take you all that seriously Tongue

No one takes this seriously because the believe they are ENTITLED to free public schools.
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#56
I personally don't know anyone that feels that they're entitled to free schooling, but I do know a lot of people that feel they should have a say in what is being taught. Too many times over the past few years, we've seen schools offering more inappropriate "education" materials, and when they're called on it, they either try to shut people up that complain or just ignore those that are complaining. We've been seeing the same attitude at all levels of government as well, where they feel it's better to ask forgiveness than permission. Sadly when they do say they're sorry it's without a shred of sincerity.
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#57
Don't like to read? The short version of this post ends at the line. Big Grin

Okay, I've read the book. Would I have let my 14 year old daughter read it? Yes. Ninja But we would have discussed the entire book together. And as a parent, I would've been very angry if I had not been alerted to the contents (which would've caused me to read it first!). I do respect the right of other parents to make different decisions based on the knowledge of their own child and his/her abilities to appropriately deal with the topic.

Note: the father in question did not read the book. How do I know? Because there are other depictions of sex (not as graphic) in the book that he would've objected to.

The book is very well written and handles several complex themes very honestly and unbiased. The main theme is not fitting in; both the popular kids and the rejected victims of the bullies. The story centers on Peter, a kid who has been bullied his entire life and ends up shooting several kids at school. He is ultimately convicted of murder, but the twist is that the girl (Josie) in the sex scene also ends up in jail for shooting her boyfriend (Matt) during that school shooting.
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The sex scene that caused this parental outrage is a pivotal part of the story, but is not understood until the end. Central to the story is that the boyfriend (Matt) is a popular jock, a bully, and a manipulative abuser. Josie is an insecure girl who sees her boyfriend as the one who rescues her from being a victim, just like her old friend Peter.

Woven throughout the story are the parents who struggle to be good parents and yet fall short, in realistic ways. None of the parents in the story are treated as being horrible people, just real and vulnerable.

Themes:

Sex - treats it fairly from both sides. Desire, confusion, feelings of being used, safe sex, pregnancy scare, miscarriage. Woven through are the conflicting emotions common to all teens and comparisons to their own parents' lives and struggles. Also shown fairly is the conflict between saying and meaning "no", emotional bullying and coercion along with physical abuse/violence, etc., a real problem with teens, and one that led to the surprising turn in the storyline.

Faith - two small references to faith are woven through the story. The school allows a Bible club, the leader is arrested for dealing drugs (a sideline comment) and yet the club continues with students as normal.

Guns - despite the fact that guns were used in the school shooting, the book does a remarkable job of remaining neutral. In the beginning, Peter's father's guns, their hunting, the retired cop next door with his handguns... are all treated fairly. The father's guns are NOT used in the shooting.

Bullying - the central theme, and it is portrayed from both sides - the "we're just joking" and the emotional reactions of the victim. Parents try to engage in helping their child stand up to the bullying, but it doesn't work. About the only area that I felt was one sided was the treatment of teachers who were all depicted as being clueless and/or uncaring.
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#58
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Baer's Daughter addresses school board after father arrested for violating 2-minute rule



[video=youtube]http://youtu.be/ryVWfATBT9M[/video]
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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#59
I would much rather my kids read erotic literature than view pornography. Though, if they're anything like me, they'll do both.
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