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anti-gun - HB 1445 Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Legislation
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note how they feel its OK to take half of your rights and they think they are being fair and reasonable by letting us keep some of rights (for now) till they come back for more.

they could have drafted up something much simpler, that wouldn't have effected US and did what their claimed intent was to stop criminal activity by misuse of this or that (fill in the blank) reason. By just making a list of enumerated crimes that IF you had a such a magazine it was extra jail time to be used in those crimes. That would be reasonable and common sense rather than trying to make criminals out of everyone, just because they had a standard capacity magazine in their possession with no intent to do harm

(when you have to special order magazines that have less than the most commonly available size magazines, they are not "high capacity" they are just standard capacity)


HB 1445 Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Legislation

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/bill...=B&bn=1445

Sponsors:
K. BOYLE, DEAN, MUNDY, O'BRIEN, B. BOYLE, SCHLOSSBERG, BRIGGS, V. BROWN, YOUNGBLOOD, CLAY, SIMS, COHEN, FRANKEL, ROEBUCK, STURLA, BROWNLEE, THOMAS, KINSEY, McGEEHAN, MCCARTER and DAVIDSON



HB 1445 Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Legislation


Posted: April 5, 2013 02:46 PM
From: Representative Kevin Boyle and Rep. Madeleine Dean
To: All House members
Subject: Large Capacity Ammunition Magazine Legislation

After further research and discussions with experts and members, we have made some changes to our proposed legislation to limit the size of large capacity magazines. Notably, we have amended the definition of a large capacity magazine to be more than 15 rounds, increased from the original 10 rounds. We believe the new version of this legislation provides sensible and reasonable regulation of large capacity ammunition.

Thus, in the near future we will be introducing legislation that amends Title 18 (Crimes and Offenses) of the Pennsylvania Consolidated Statutes to prohibit the sale, offering and exposing for sale, use, purchase, possession and control of a large capacity ammunition magazine – which is defined as an automatic ammunition feeding device capable of accepting more than 15 rounds of ammunition or 5 shotgun shells.

Our legislation will include 12 exceptions to the prohibition on large capacity ammunition magazines. Those exceptions include:
Large capacity ammunition magazines legally possessed prior to the effective date of the bill
Government officers, i.e., military, police, National Guard, etc.
Museum collections
Delivery of a large capacity ammunition magazine to law enforcement after its discovery;
Firearm dealers who obtain a permit from the Attorney General selling to individuals permitted to possess a large capacity ammunition magazine
Manufacturers who obtain a permit from the Attorney General
An armored vehicle business that obtains a permit from the Attorney General, and its employees, for purposes of the armored vehicle business
A private forensic laboratory that obtains a permit from the Attorney General, and its employees, for purposes of forensic activities of the laboratory
Gunsmiths who obtain a permit from the Attorney General for purposes of maintenance, repair or modification of the large capacity ammunition magazine
A motion picture or television production that obtains a permit from the Attorney General, and its agents and employees, to use a large capacity ammunition magazine as a prop
Shooting ranges that obtain a permit from the Attorney General
Members and patrons at shooting ranges

Large capacity ammunition magazines are a relatively new phenomenon. Prior to the 1980s, the most popular handgun design was the revolver. However, during the 80s, the firearms industry shifted design and marketing toward high-capacity semiautomatic pistols. In 1980, semiautomatic pistols accounted for only 32 percent of the 2.3 million handguns produced in America. By 1991, however, such pistols accounted for 74 percent of the 1.8 million handguns produced that year.

We believe this legislation is reasonable and necessary, as it is illegal to use a large capacity ammunition magazine to hunt in Pennsylvania, and tragically because these magazines have bee frequently used in horrendous mass shootings – including those that occurred at Sandy Hook Elementary School, Newton, Connecticut; in Tucson, Arizona; at Columbine High School, Virginia Tech, and Fort Hood, Texas.

In some cases, large capacity ammunition magazines can hold up to 100 rounds of ammunition. Although detachable large capacity ammunition magazines are typically associated with machine guns or semi-automatic assault weapons, such devices are generally available for any semi-automatic firearm that accepts a detachable magazine. Because of their ability to hold so many rounds of ammunition, large capacity ammunition magazines significantly increase the lethality of the automatic and semi-automatic firearms using them.

Our legislation would allow Pennsylvania to follow the lead of other states such as California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey and New York that have limited the amount of ammunition in firearm magazine clips.

Please join us in co-sponsoring this very important legislation.




Constitution of the United States of America Amendment II
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA
Article 1 DECLARATION OF RIGHTS Right to Bear Arms Section 21.
The right of the citizens to bear arms in defense of themselves and the State shall not be questioned.
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There is nothing reasonable or necessary about this legislation.
The law? The law is a human institution...
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csmith;103057 Wrote:There is nothing reasonable or necessary about this legislation.
I agree 100% thats why I posted it. I hope everyone here calls their reps and we can stop this.
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Guys, guys guys!

There is NO legislation! This is nothing more than a memorandum that Boyle wrote up. No legislation has been written, read or introduced.

A memorandum is nothing more than a 'post it note' from some legislator saying they are thinking about doing something, nothing more. Until Boyle actually writes a bill it is nothing more than a pipe dream (for him).

If he does actually introduce a bill we will be the first to let you know but worrying about what every schumk is 'thinking about' is counter productive.
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dc dalton;103111 Wrote:Guys, guys guys!

There is NO legislation! This is nothing more than a memorandum that Boyle wrote up. No legislation has been written, read or introduced.

A memorandum is nothing more than a 'post it note' from some legislator saying they are thinking about doing something, nothing more. Until Boyle actually writes a bill it is nothing more than a pipe dream (for him).

If he does actually introduce a bill we will be the first to let you know but worrying about what every schumk is 'thinking about' is counter productive.

Then this is a preemptive "Fuck their moms"!
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spblademaker;103140 Wrote:
dc dalton;103111 Wrote:Guys, guys guys!

There is NO legislation! This is nothing more than a memorandum that Boyle wrote up. No legislation has been written, read or introduced.

A memorandum is nothing more than a 'post it note' from some legislator saying they are thinking about doing something, nothing more. Until Boyle actually writes a bill it is nothing more than a pipe dream (for him).

If he does actually introduce a bill we will be the first to let you know but worrying about what every schumk is 'thinking about' is counter productive.

Then this is a preemptive "Fuck their moms"!

No, this is some liberal legislator who tool out a bill number and then masturbated to a memorandum (which means jack shit) and get everyone to freak out about it.

Again my friends, nothing more than liberal masturbation
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Regardless I still appreciate being made aware the moment stuff like this comes up for a variety of reasons. I would rather know well in advance what they are talking about, gathering support for, and trying to do. I appreciate the work everybody on this forum (and to an extent poofa) when it comes to this stuff.

Granted, I won't be making any phone calls or writing any letters over this one just yet....
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