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AR 15 Pistol
#1
My understanding is a AR 15 pistol or AK pistol is not a short barrel rifle as long as it does not have a stock. It was bought that way and paperwork as pistol. So can you carry it in your car as a pistol? Does anybody know?
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#2
If you have a LTCF, and the AR pistol has a barrel less than 15" - it is considered a "firearm". "Firearms" require a LTCF to carry in a vehicle.

If the barrel exceeds 15", it is not a "firearm". ...thus, will have to be carried unloaded, but no LTCF would be needed.

So, if it is truly a "firearm", and you have your LTCF - then the answer is yes.
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#3
Pistol grip only shotguns are the same. If it was sold with a pistol grip and has never had a stock attached, it's not legally a shotgun. It's just a firearm.
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#4
you mean something like below

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goofin;60846 Wrote:you mean something like below

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That would be it.
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#6
goofin;60846 Wrote:you mean something like below

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Hard to tell from the picture, but is that a pistol buffer tube?
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goofin;60846 Wrote:you mean something like below

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Sweet HL-5250DN.
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#8
spblademaker;61097 Wrote:Hard to tell from the picture, but is that a pistol buffer tube?

Looks like he took a regular carbine buffer tube and wrapped some paracord around it and finished it off with a rubber end used for walking canes. Prior to me building my AR pistol, I spoke to the ATF's firearm technology branch about the buffer tube and they said that you cannot use something that would be could "readily accept a stock". I asked her to further clarify that and she said that if it can accept a stock then it should be avoided. Just b/c I feel that gives them too much latitude and I don't have the financial means to be a test case for an overzealous prosecutor, I chose to go with the PWS pistol buffer tube which in no way can accept a stock.

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#9
To me the cord had made it look like a rifle buffer. It was the lump underneath that threw me.
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#10
the ar and the ar45 builds both have Rock River pistol tubes on them, wrapped with para cord and has a black rubber furniture end on it. the rubber tip is there so it stands up in the safe and it will not accept a stock.
atf will have no problem as of now, unless the rotten bastards rewrite the laws....
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