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Are you Illegally Carrying Concealed at the Post Office?
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Are You Illegally Carrying Concealed at the Post Office?

By Jason Hanson on October 9, 2012 in Articles, Concealed Carry

Most of us believe we understand concealed carry laws fairly well. After all, we know we cannot carry concealed in a courthouse, we know we cannot carry concealed in an airport, and in the vast majority of states we’re not allowed to carry concealed inside a school.
Are You Illegally Carrying Concealed at the Post Office?

Are You Illegally Carrying Concealed at the Post Office?

But when it comes to the Post Office many people unknowingly violate the law and I’d be willing to bet you’ve done it once or twice or you know someone who has. And guess what? What I’m talking about has nothing to do with carrying concealed INSIDE the post office.

Most people can agree it’s illegal to carry concealed inside a Post Office.

I say “most,” because there are a good number of people who think it is legal. You see, the United States Code (18 U.S.C. 930) that deals with firearms in federal buildings has a section that says there are certain times you can carry concealed in a federal building… “The lawful carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.”

People argue that “other lawful purposes” means we can carry for personal protection because we have a valid concealed carry permit. From what my lawyer has told me and from all of the research I have done this is NOT true.

In fact, the Code of Federal Regulations – Title 39 – which is named “Conduct on Postal Property” says “No person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.”

So hopefully you understand that you cannot carry concealed inside the Post Office…

But that’s not my main concern and not why I wrote this today. The reason I wrote this and the big mistake people make is that you’re not even allowed to have your gun on Post Office Property. In other words, when you pull into the parking lot and toss your gun into the glove compartment while you go mail a letter, you are breaking the law.

I realize that may sound “dumb” and hard to believe, but the above Title 39 paragraph clearly states “on postal property, except for official purposes.” Now, I had a student who told me that a friend of theirs got arrested in the Post Office parking lot when a police officer watched him put his gun in his glove box…

But the biggest proof I found is what actually happened to a postal employee. A fellow named Clarence Dorosan used to store his gun in his car while he went to work each day. Somehow, one of this supervisors found out he had a gun in his car and he was arrested and fired for having a gun on the property. I’ve added appellate ruling where the judges upheld his original conviction below this article.

So since you cannot even carry onto the Post Office parking lot, what should you do? Obviously, one option is to leave your gun at home if you know you’ve got to stop by the Post Office. But where I live there is a restaurant next to the Post Office so I always park in the restaurant parking lot and stash my gun in the glove box and then walk over when I need to send a package or mail a letter. Yes, it’s nonsense, but unfortunately, many laws are.
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This is why I don't go to the post office.

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IronSight;22203 Wrote:
AndrewG23;22198 Wrote:we know we cannot carry concealed in an airport

Oh geeze, in the non-secure areas it depends on state law there (same with courthouses). Dodgy

Anyway, decent article overall.

Haha I know I saw that too! I got a laugh Big Grin
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When it comes to being branded a felon for breaking a federal crime, and losing the right to own guns and carry permanently, I do not take the chance.
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For full disclosure, I almost never go to a post office (maybe once per year). When I do I use my car safe and I park either on-street, or in a neighboring parking lot. I simply don't trust the general public to NOT call the cops whenever they see a gun.
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Like Shadowline, I rarely go to the P.O. but if I do, I park on the street and secure my gun in the car.

The same goes for the VA clinic now. No guns on the property at all. But, at least they have signs as a reminder.
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JustinHEMI;22204 Wrote:This is why I don't go to the post office.

Justin

Could have something to do with the mandatory half hour plus wait and the slowest fucking government workers in the world that like to sit there and bullshit with the regulars while the line is out the door. I love waiting 30 minutes to buy a fucking stamp.
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Emoticon;22516 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;22204 Wrote:This is why I don't go to the post office.

Justin

I love waiting 30 minutes to buy a fucking stamp.

You know that most grocery stores as well as Costco sell stamps right at the checkout line?
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AndrewG23;22198 Wrote:http://www.usacarry.com/carrying-conceal...rce=normal

In fact, the Code of Federal Regulations – Title 39 – which is named “Conduct on Postal Property” says “No person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.”

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brownman;22546 Wrote:
AndrewG23;22198 Wrote:http://www.usacarry.com/carrying-conceal...rce=normal

In fact, the Code of Federal Regulations – Title 39 – which is named “Conduct on Postal Property” says “No person while on postal property may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.”

I am Officially here for the Purpose of mailing this stupid letterWhistling

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