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#31
Well, I stand corrected! Thanks for the education.
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#32
I hope this jackass gets what he deserves.
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#33
halftrack;134593 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;134592 Wrote:The irony is delicious. I hope his defense is built on the unconstitutionality of the law, that will be the icing on the cake.

I'm a hypocrite, sue me.

Justin

Not at all. This needs to happen more often to bring the reality home to those who push for these laws. It doesn't affect them enough. It needs to.

He wanted the law, he pushed for it, now he can feel it on a personal level.

Exactly, most of the laws passed in this country don't affect the ones making them up. They have no real life knowledge/experience on the subject, yet they know what's good for the rest of us.
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#34
jahwarrior72;134597 Wrote:Well, I stand corrected! Thanks for the education.

Well, you were correct in your observation, so I didn't "correct" you. I know you're not a bullshitter. Just let you know that isn't the case in all of NYS. You probably were in a shit county. Just like PA NYS has them but on a more extreme level than here and with little or no action from it's citizens. You can appeal if you are rejected with an adequate reason and the CCW is only supposed to cost $10 but the paperwork that goes with it is $100 to a gazzilion depending on where you are. I wouldn't be surprised if you had a judge that gave some sort of silly paper that said good only in this county. Just like here when you used to get papers saying you had to conceal your firearm..
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soberbyker;134605 Wrote:
halftrack;134593 Wrote:Not at all. This needs to happen more often to bring the reality home to those who push for these laws. It doesn't affect them enough. It needs to.

He wanted the law, he pushed for it, now he can feel it on a personal level.

Exactly, most of the laws passed in this country don't affect the ones making them up. They have no real life knowledge/experience on the subject, yet they know what's good for the rest of us.

And I'm willing to bet it still won't affect him. I bet the charges get reduced or dropped. I bet he doesn't permanently lose his permit or become prohibited. Otherwise this case will stand as a shining example why gun laws only criminalize non criminals. He will be the NRA poster child for the next 50 years. No way the anti gun lobbies are going to let this guy fry.
Welcome to ObamaNation part deuxUtg
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God's Country;134615 Wrote:
soberbyker;134605 Wrote:Exactly, most of the laws passed in this country don't affect the ones making them up. They have no real life knowledge/experience on the subject, yet they know what's good for the rest of us.

And I'm willing to bet it still won't affect him. I bet the charges get reduced or dropped. I bet he doesn't permanently lose his permit or become prohibited. Otherwise this case will stand as a shining example why gun laws only criminalize non criminals. He will be the NRA poster child for the next 50 years. No way the anti gun lobbies are going to let this guy fry.

Sadly I believe you are correct. In a perfect world though, a case like this would help those with their head up their ass see the light and begin to understand what the gun lobby has been saying all along. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding.
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soberbyker;134616 Wrote:
God's Country;134615 Wrote:And I'm willing to bet it still won't affect him. I bet the charges get reduced or dropped. I bet he doesn't permanently lose his permit or become prohibited. Otherwise this case will stand as a shining example why gun laws only criminalize non criminals. He will be the NRA poster child for the next 50 years. No way the anti gun lobbies are going to let this guy fry.

Sadly I believe you are correct. In a perfect world though, a case like this would help those with their head up their ass see the light and begin to understand what the gun lobby has been saying all along. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding.

Catch 22 for them. If they follow the law they crucify their own. If they don't, they begin laying precedent on some level against the SAFE Act. They made their bed now they get to lie in it.
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rmagill;134778 Wrote:
soberbyker;134616 Wrote:Sadly I believe you are correct. In a perfect world though, a case like this would help those with their head up their ass see the light and begin to understand what the gun lobby has been saying all along. Gun control laws only affect the law abiding.

Catch 22 for them. If they follow the law they crucify their own. If they don't, they begin laying precedent on some level against the SAFE Act. They made their bed now they get to lie in it.

I doubt any precedent will be set. If they don't charge him or reduce the charge, or if he gets a pardon, or any of the things I expect will happen, it will just blow over, as usual. David Gregory broke DC law bringing the ar mag into the city limits, and it all went away. Granted this is a bigger deal, but I'm cynical regarding the outcome.
Welcome to ObamaNation part deuxUtg
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