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Attn: Third Party Supporters
#1
I understand your frustration with the other parties, really I do, and I understand your frustration with not getting enough turn out to get federal matching funds for the next cycle, but if I could make a suggestion.

Instead of trying to knock the ball out of the park by taking on the Presidency, or even a Senate seat, why don't you do what the far left of the Democrat party did? Slowly, starting at the local level, run candidates until you get enough home grown support to run candidates at the federal level. If your party(ies) are viable enough that Joe and Jane Average can support them at the local level, then it will make a major impact on trying to get a national seat or seats. Just a thought!
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#2
Really doesn't matter anymore. The National elections, now that the welfare coalition has over 50%, will now be just like Philthy and Detroit.

The Welfarers will now always win, 100% of the time, despite the continuing wreckage created by the Liberals.

11/6/2012 was the day The Constitution died.
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#3
two words .....voter fraud
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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middlefinger;40758 Wrote:two words .....voter fraud

Philadelphia 558,158 votes Obama 85%
91,870 votes Romney 14%
2,721 votes Johnson .4%

I wanted Ron Paul, however, I voted Romney because I thought Pa would be in the play to win. I chose to vote that way at the very last minute. Just this time. Once again, the GOP failed. The republican party at one time was the THIRD party due to the direct failures of the other national parties at the time.

I don't see how changing the third party vote to romney would have helped him in Pennsylvania, unless you think people didn't show up to vote. Maybe the GOP should put up real conservatives next time.
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billamj;40749 Wrote:I understand your frustration with the other parties, really I do, and I understand your frustration with not getting enough turn out to get federal matching funds for the next cycle, but if I could make a suggestion.

Instead of trying to knock the ball out of the park by taking on the Presidency, or even a Senate seat, why don't you do what the far left of the Democrat party did? Slowly, starting at the local level, run candidates until you get enough home grown support to run candidates at the federal level. If your party(ies) are viable enough that Joe and Jane Average can support them at the local level, then it will make a major impact on trying to get a national seat or seats. Just a thought!

the local stuff is not as easy as most would think, at least not here in PA, because it takes many more signatures than the two large parties to get on the ballot. also, if the two main parties feel you're a serious threat, they'll take you to court to knock you off or keep you tied up in the court system to drain your funds until you basically quit on your own.

plus, the LPPA, for example, is so dysfunctional.
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andrewjs18;40808 Wrote:
billamj;40749 Wrote:I understand your frustration with the other parties, really I do, and I understand your frustration with not getting enough turn out to get federal matching funds for the next cycle, but if I could make a suggestion.

Instead of trying to knock the ball out of the park by taking on the Presidency, or even a Senate seat, why don't you do what the far left of the Democrat party did? Slowly, starting at the local level, run candidates until you get enough home grown support to run candidates at the federal level. If your party(ies) are viable enough that Joe and Jane Average can support them at the local level, then it will make a major impact on trying to get a national seat or seats. Just a thought!

the local stuff is not as easy as most would think, at least not here in PA, because it takes many more signatures than the two large parties to get on the ballot. also, if the two main parties feel you're a serious threat, they'll take you to court to knock you off or keep you tied up in the court system to drain your funds until you basically quit on your own.

plus, the LPPA, for example, is so dysfunctional.

So rather than work to making the party functional on one or several levels you do what? If you keep giving up on the local level you will never win on the federal level. People are not going to trust a party if they don't see them in action.
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billamj;40811 Wrote:
andrewjs18;40808 Wrote:the local stuff is not as easy as most would think, at least not here in PA, because it takes many more signatures than the two large parties to get on the ballot. also, if the two main parties feel you're a serious threat, they'll take you to court to knock you off or keep you tied up in the court system to drain your funds until you basically quit on your own.

plus, the LPPA, for example, is so dysfunctional.

So rather than work to making the party functional on one or several levels you do what? If you keep giving up on the local level you will never win on the federal level. People are not going to trust a party if they don't see them in action.

I don't wish to be a part of the Libertarian party.

I am working on a few things that I can't speak about though with some others. Wink
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#8
If a 3rd party is preaching a message of independence from government or self reliance, it stands NO chance.
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andrewjs18;40818 Wrote:
billamj;40811 Wrote:So rather than work to making the party functional on one or several levels you do what? If you keep giving up on the local level you will never win on the federal level. People are not going to trust a party if they don't see them in action.

I don't wish to be a part of the Libertarian party.

I am working on a few things that I can't speak about though with some others. Wink

That's cool, you are at least putting action to words. I can respect that.

Camper;40848 Wrote:If a 3rd party is preaching a message of independence from government or self reliance, it stands NO chance.
I'm not sure that anyone preaching a message of independence from government or self reliance would stand a chance, third party or major party. It still needs to be said though. Wink
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billamj;40749 Wrote:I understand your frustration with the other parties, really I do, and I understand your frustration with not getting enough turn out to get federal matching funds for the next cycle, but if I could make a suggestion.

Instead of trying to knock the ball out of the park by taking on the Presidency, or even a Senate seat, why don't you do what the far left of the Democrat party did? Slowly, starting at the local level, run candidates until you get enough home grown support to run candidates at the federal level. If your party(ies) are viable enough that Joe and Jane Average can support them at the local level, then it will make a major impact on trying to get a national seat or seats. Just a thought!

Don't be silly. That would just be logical. Actually what you describe is exactly what the Tea Party did; and look at how much political influence they have now.
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