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Barry and the Back Door
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grenade 
Are we are seeing the opening moves of an end game?



Quote:President Obama, congressional Democrats and even some Republicans plan to push new gun-control legislation in the 113th Congress, but defenders of the Second Amendment fear Obama is poised to enact the restrictions through the Executive Branch if Congress is not cooperative.

John M. Snyder heads GunRightsPolicies.org and has worked for organizations from the National Rifle Association to the Second Amendment Foundation and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms. He said Obama and his allies have already chartered what regulatory course to pursue through the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, or ATF.

“We have some confidential information that he may order the ATF to reclassify certain models of semi-automatic firearms as Title 2 guns under the Gun Control Act of 1968,” Snyder told WND. “What this would mean is that people could not obtain these without going through a terribly difficult process that includes registration of each firearm and paying a severe fee for the ownership of each one.”

Snyder said an even more drastic approach from Obama would be to try to ban semiautomatic weapons altogether.
Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2013/01/obamas-secret...MhIFfUE.99
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Executive orders can't rewrite federal law. The definitions in the GCA of 1968 are plainly written. You can't magically change the meaning with an EO. EOs can't ban semi autos either. That requires an actual law.
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Warpt762x39;63345 Wrote:Executive orders can't rewrite federal law. The definitions in the GCA of 1968 are plainly written. You can't magically change the meaning with an EO. EOs can't ban semi autos either. That requires an actual law.

They will do it through regulation, which doesnt rewrite federal law. Hence Back Door Barry.
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Deceptive thread title is deceptive.

Thought this was a thread about Obama being gay.
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Spacemanvic;63356 Wrote:
Warpt762x39;63345 Wrote:Executive orders can't rewrite federal law. The definitions in the GCA of 1968 are plainly written. You can't magically change the meaning with an EO. EOs can't ban semi autos either. That requires an actual law.

They will do it through regulation, which doesnt rewrite federal law. Hence Back Door Barry.

Again, EOs aren't laws. You can't come up with a regulation that's in direct conflict with federal law.
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streaker69;63357 Wrote:Deceptive thread title is deceptive.

Thought this was a thread about Obama being gay.
Sorry to disappoint you?Undecided
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We will lose these battles without a shot being fired. The public has been so conditioned that we are evil people even if 90% of the public thought they were going too far they would still do it. Keep writing and calling Reps, join the NRA and start considering what you will do when the feds come knocking cause thats the direction we are headed in folks.
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das;63362 Wrote:We will lose these battles without a shot being fired. The public has been so conditioned that we are evil people even if 90% of the public thought they were going too far they would still do it. Keep writing and calling Reps, join the NRA and start considering what you will do when the feds come knocking cause thats the direction we are headed in folks.

Yeah, no. I'll subscribe to the defeatist mentality IF something bad actually gets passed. If you want to roll over to a defeat that may or may not come, feel free to do so.
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I remain cautiously optimistic that the House will shut down any gun-bans. The House Republicans know that there are a lot of pissed off conservatives after the fiscal cliff vote followed up by Boehner getting reelected Speaker. There is still not majority public support for a ban.

I sent Boehner an email telling him I strongly oppose all gun and magazine bans. He needs to hear from everybody since he controls what even gets to the floor for a vote.
He was the sort of person who stood on mountaintops during thunderstorms in wet copper armour shouting "All the Gods are bastards."
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Warpt762x39;63359 Wrote:
Spacemanvic;63356 Wrote:They will do it through regulation, which doesnt rewrite federal law. Hence Back Door Barry.

Again, EOs aren't laws. You can't come up with a regulation that's in direct conflict with federal law.
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Ever heard of the Commerce Clause? You really think laws mean diddly to the current administration?
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