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BLOOMBERG: NRA DYING, AMERICANS WANT MORE GUN CONTROL
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39Flathead;48285 Wrote:I can deal with a politician that wavers, they all do it, even the mighty Ron Paul by accepting earmarks does it, but I won't support that politician financially, nor will I support the NRA until they decide that compromise is not part of the 2nd.

I'm wondering when the hell Harrisburg will understand that the problem with gun violence isn't that there's not enough laws, it's that PA's justice system is a fucked-up revolving door.

Why are judges giving people who have sat in front of a judge for VUFA more than once getting ankle bracelets and home monitoring? Oh that's right the primary charge was drug possession. Fuck the VUFA charges they're not important. That's what's actually happening in the court room and I see it.

I would support my taxes being raised slightly if it meant that we build a 6,000 man facility far, far upstate, far away from airports and interstates, up in the woods--and start shipping VUFA CRIMINALS from our shithole 1st and 2nd class cities.

There your gun violence will go down. Come on how many months do you think it will take before these idiots running around with a firearm they barely know how to use realize that being caught with it means upstate time where family won't get off their fat asses to drive crossstate to come visit. For years. I say 9 months tops.

And we don't need to change a statute anywhere on the books.

Harrisburg won't do anything except open up a word processor and write more bills that do diddy fkn squat and also restrict more freedoms, but it doesn't stop gun violence one iota--so the antis scream "we need even more!!!" When will someone wake up and get a fkn clue?
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#22
39Flathead;48167 Wrote:
bigdawgbeav;48111 Wrote:Same here. Life Member.... and also not always on the same page, but you can't deny what they have done and accomplished for gun rights in this country.
Their support of the Gun Owners Protection Act of 1986 comes to mind.
That would be the one which included the machine gun ban, right? Not an acceptable compromise.
I am not a lawyer.
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#23
Whatever warts the NRA has, if you're not with them, you're with Doocheberg.

Just like Romneys not the perfect candidate, well,with that mentality, you now you have the WORST of all time.
"In 4 more OMao years you won't like how America looks....I guarantee it."
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Pocketprotector;48438 Wrote:Whatever warts the NRA has, if you're not with them, you're with Doocheberg.

Just like Romneys not the perfect candidate, well,with that mentality, you now you have the WORST of all time.

Right, because supporting the NRA and supporting Bloomberg are the only two possible options. Rolleyes
I am not a lawyer.
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Pocketprotector;48438 Wrote:Whatever warts the NRA has, if you're not with them, you're with Doocheberg.

Just like Romneys not the perfect candidate, well,with that mentality, you now you have the WORST of all time.

NRA has a tendency to torpedo pro gun laws at the state level. PA Castle Doctrine is one of those times. They've compromised our rights away more than once. There are other pro gun groups out there that are doing great work. The NRA isn't the only game in town and it's certainly not the best. My membership expired and I won't be renewing it.
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#26
Well.... Bloomberg just ensured that people who think like me and are on the edge about the usefulness of the NRA will be re upping with the NRA. Way to promote the NRA BloombergSmile

Yes.... Bloomberg is such a douchbag that I will pretty much do the the opposite of anything he says or wants just for spite.
Everytime we look the other way when someone else loses rights we disagree with, we make it easier to lose the rights we support.

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Warpt762x39;48444 Wrote:
Pocketprotector;48438 Wrote:Whatever warts the NRA has, if you're not with them, you're with Doocheberg.

Just like Romneys not the perfect candidate, well,with that mentality, you now you have the WORST of all time.

NRA has a tendency to torpedo pro gun laws at the state level. PA Castle Doctrine is one of those times. They've compromised our rights away more than once. There are other pro gun groups out there that are doing great work. The NRA isn't the only game in town and it's certainly not the best. My membership expired and I won't be renewing it.

Nuttin stoppin ya from joining more than one large national gun rights group.
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Spacemanvic;48492 Wrote:
Warpt762x39;48444 Wrote:NRA has a tendency to torpedo pro gun laws at the state level. PA Castle Doctrine is one of those times. They've compromised our rights away more than once. There are other pro gun groups out there that are doing great work. The NRA isn't the only game in town and it's certainly not the best. My membership expired and I won't be renewing it.

Nuttin stoppin ya from joining more than one large national gun rights group.

^ This.

While I do not agree with everything the NRA does, they are the most recognized 2a organization in America. I differ a lot on political issues, but to me the NRA is more than a political organization (fyi, the NRA started as a training entity, not political).

Also, it is a numbers game. The more people that are members of organizations like the NRA, GOA, etc., the more these organizations represent, the more likely politicians are likely to head what is said. Let's be honest, if 100% of the people in a congressman's district write in and say they oppose a bill and if he votes for it they will vote him out of office, do you really think he will vote for it?.

Also, I find the $2,500 in firearms insurance to be worth the $25/year membership fee - let alone the other discounts.

Are there better 2a political entities? Certainly. Can these other entities offer me what the NRA does? Nope. That is why I support multiple pro-2A groups.
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#29
I don't blame the NRA for opposing the PA castle doctrine law.

How many of you even know that by adopting it, it is now ILLEGAL to resist arrest even when a reasonable person would know that it is an unlawful arrest?
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#30
Just curious.
When people think about gun rights - i always hear and think about the NRA. So many complain about the negatives of each organization, but what about the positives. We need representation as most people are good at complaining but not taking a stance.

For those of you who do not support the NRA - and we do need support, so who do you support?
Just1more, proud to be a member of pa2a.org since Sep 2012.
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