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#1
Someone pointed out this site over there: https://www.apexgunparts.com/product_inf...ts_id/3648

I ordered a small and a large and got them today. They're in pretty decent shape.

Here's the small.

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They're used, apparently made in 2002, and at least one of them came from Puerto Rico. I figure they'd be good for those bump in the night situations.
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#2
Not a bad deal at all!

I've been hesitant to buy body armor for awhile because of the price, and the fact that they have expiration dates, and most of the affordable stuff can only stop pistol rounds.

However I'm starting to consider buying something, because I've seen a few reports and studies showing that Kevlar stays effective LONG after it's expiration date, and the AR500 armor on the market is very affordable and is proven to stop multiple rifle rounds.

I'll be making a purchase soon, just not sure if it will be a cheap retired kevlar vest like the one you posted, or spend a little more and go for the AR500. My thought is, I'm not going to wear the armor all the time, so I'll only put it on if I think I'm about to be in a gun fight. In that case, wouldn't you want to have rifle protection? So I'm really leaning toward spending the $300 and getting a decent plate carrier and AR500 plates.
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#3
bac0nfat;126076 Wrote:However I'm starting to consider buying something, because I've seen a few reports and studies showing that Kevlar stays effective LONG after it's expiration date,

I've been in the Kevlar business about 15 years now so take it from me those reports are dead wrong.

NEVER EVER buy Kevlar passed it's date. Hell, I would NEVER EVER buy used since it can break down pretty fast even under UV light, like if a cop left it in his back seat during the summer.
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#4
bac0nfat;126076 Wrote:Not a bad deal at all!

I've been hesitant to buy body armor for awhile because of the price, and the fact that they have expiration dates, and most of the affordable stuff can only stop pistol rounds.

However I'm starting to consider buying something, because I've seen a few reports and studies showing that Kevlar stays effective LONG after it's expiration date, and the AR500 armor on the market is very affordable and is proven to stop multiple rifle rounds.

I'll be making a purchase soon, just not sure if it will be a cheap retired kevlar vest like the one you posted, or spend a little more and go for the AR500. My thought is, I'm not going to wear the armor all the time, so I'll only put it on if I think I'm about to be in a gun fight. In that case, wouldn't you want to have rifle protection? So I'm really leaning toward spending the $300 and getting a decent plate carrier and AR500 plates.

Depends entirely on storage conditions, AFAIK
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#5
bac0nfat;126076 Wrote:So I'm really leaning toward spending the $300 and getting a decent plate carrier and AR500 plates.

This is what I chose to do. I haven't picked up the plates yet but I did get a carrier. One thing at a time I suppose.
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#6
I beleive all kevar is encased in a outer caseing to protect it. I to played with kevlar. We made balistic neck pads for the back of milatary helmets. The stuff would fray like crazy.
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#7
If you got them for a cheap price, then I say it's better than nothing. Streaker plans to use them for people who break into his house. He's not sending his kids off to war in them.
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Dave;126080 Wrote:
bac0nfat;126076 Wrote:However I'm starting to consider buying something, because I've seen a few reports and studies showing that Kevlar stays effective LONG after it's expiration date,

I've been in the Kevlar business about 15 years now so take it from me those reports are dead wrong.

NEVER EVER buy Kevlar passed it's date. Hell, I would NEVER EVER buy used since it can break down pretty fast even under UV light, like if a cop left it in his back seat during the summer.

I'm not saying it doesn't degrade or lose some of it's effectiveness, I'm saying it still retains SOME degree of protection long after it's expiration date, and there are videos out there to prove it. It might not be the best, but if it's all you can afford, it's better than nothing.

ETA: I seem to recall Valorius took a IIIA kevlar vest from 1992 and shot it over and over again with various pistols calibers, and it stopped everything. And it's all on video. I'm sure you can find it if you are really interested.
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#9
Cotton tee shirts are cheaper Tongue
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bac0nfat;126125 Wrote:
Dave;126080 Wrote:I've been in the Kevlar business about 15 years now so take it from me those reports are dead wrong.

NEVER EVER buy Kevlar passed it's date. Hell, I would NEVER EVER buy used since it can break down pretty fast even under UV light, like if a cop left it in his back seat during the summer.

I'm not saying it doesn't degrade or lose some of it's effectiveness, I'm saying it still retains SOME degree of protection long after it's expiration date, and there are videos out there to prove it. It might not be the best, but if it's all you can afford, it's better than nothing.

ETA: I seem to recall Valorius took a IIIA kevlar vest from 1992 and shot it over and over again with various pistols calibers, and it stopped everything. And it's all on video. I'm sure you can find it if you are really interested.

No doubt. The military routinely uses Kevlar that's 10-20+ years old. The question is usually storage conditions. I'm no expert but I think that may be the most important factor.
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