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Why do I need food grade buckets if I am storing my food in a mylar bag inside the bucket?
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#2
Ok, let me clarify. Every site I read or video I see about storing food in mylar bags suggests you use a food-grade bucket. If it is in a mylar bag, why does it matter what kind of bucket the bag is in? Do non-food-grade buckets have some kind of chemical in them that will leech through a mylar bag, or is this one of those things that doesn't really matter?
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badey;32831 Wrote:Ok, let me clarify. Every site I read or video I see about storing food in mylar bags suggests you use a food-grade bucket. If it is in a mylar bag, why does it matter what kind of bucket the bag is in? Do non-food-grade buckets have some kind of chemical in them that will leech through a mylar bag, or is this one of those things that doesn't really matter?

I've never really understood that either. Personally, I don't use the mylar bags because the stuff I'm storing in food grade buckets aren't going to be stored for 5 or 10 years. I rotate through my stock fast enough that I just don't see the need. I'm using foodgrade (HDPE) buckets with gamma seal lids with O2 absorbers and desiccant packs. I haven't noticed any spoilage in any of my stored dry goods.
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streaker69;32852 Wrote:
badey;32831 Wrote:Ok, let me clarify. Every site I read or video I see about storing food in mylar bags suggests you use a food-grade bucket. If it is in a mylar bag, why does it matter what kind of bucket the bag is in? Do non-food-grade buckets have some kind of chemical in them that will leech through a mylar bag, or is this one of those things that doesn't really matter?

I've never really understood that either. Personally, I don't use the mylar bags because the stuff I'm storing in food grade buckets aren't going to be stored for 5 or 10 years. I rotate through my stock fast enough that I just don't see the need. I'm using foodgrade (HDPE) buckets with gamma seal lids with O2 absorbers and desiccant packs. I haven't noticed any spoilage in any of my stored dry goods.

It's to avoid cross contamination and has little to do with spoilage. Foodstuffs properly stored in mylar bags should be fine by themselves however you do add the potential for cross contamination if, once opened, they are then stored in food-grade buckets that have not been properly cared for or if they are stored in non-food-grade buckets.
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#5
Where do you get hdpe buckets? Never heard of them. If they are the home dumpster style, they are far from hdpe, one good drop from a scaffold and, goodbye....
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bogey1;32887 Wrote:Where do you get hdpe buckets? Never heard of them. If they are the home dumpster style, they are far from hdpe, one good drop from a scaffold and, goodbye....

Walmart in the paint section has clean buckets (nothing stored in them previously) that are HDPE.

Here's how you can identify a "food safe" bucket: http://www.wikihow.com/Identify-Food-Grade-Buckets

But here's the thing. You can order "food safe" buckets that have a sticker on them indicating that they're "food safe". Meaning that they're marked HDPE (2) on the bottom and they haven't had anything nasty stored in them.

When I first started getting buckets, I ordered some "food safe" buckets and all the markings in the plastic are the exact same as what you'd get in the white buckets at Walmart. So why spend the money for someone to slap a label on a bucket and charge you a premium for the service?

5 gallon HDPE buckets from Walmart are $2.97 +tax. To get "food safe" buckets shipped in you're going to pay for shipping (they're big so it's expensive) plus the "food safe" premium.

All the buckets I get are thoroughly cleaned and sterilized with boiling water. I boil a pan of water pour it into the bucket and slosh it around, can't think of any other way to do it. They are then dried thoroughly. If I'm using a Gamma Seal lid on it, then I put that on after I clean the rim but before I sterilize it.
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#7
Maybe I should start cleaning and selling my empty Drywall buckets?
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#8
Mitch10mm;32956 Wrote:Maybe I should start cleaning and selling my empty Drywall buckets?

As long as you're not saying they're food safe, go ahead. There's someone over near Route 23 that does that, I think for a $1/each.
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#9
They're HDPE 2
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#10
Mitch10mm;32981 Wrote:They're HDPE 2

But they wouldn't be considered food safe because they've been used to hold non-food items.
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