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Bundy thing escalates, one shot
#1
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/27/ore...tcmp=hpbt1


Quote:Neither the FBI nor Oregon State Police released details about what set off the gunfire at the traffic stop. The Oregonian reported that the deceased man was 55-year-old Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, the group's spokesperson. Authorities said no other information about the deceased would be released pending formal identification by the local medical examiner's office.

Finicum and Ryan Bundy allegedly disobeyed orders to surrender and resisted arrest, The Oregonian reported, citing sources. But that narrative is being challenged.
Ammon Bundy told his wife that Finicum was cooperating with police when he was shot, according to Nevada Assemblywoman Michele Fiore. A Facebook account reportedly operated by one of Finicum's 11 children, Thara Tenney, also said Finicum was cooperating.
"I want the world to know how my father was murdered today," the post said. "His hands were in the air and he was shot in the face by the American authorities. Ammon Bundy reported there are six witnesses to this evil."


I'm not really a "Bundy supporter" but I'm interested to find out if the witness account is true and, if so, if anyone cares.
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#2
It was only a matter of time. I can sympathize with the stated grievances but part of the grievances should have been addressed years ago by the State. The other part, concerning the ranchers, is BS in my opinion. They already served time and was released. However, they expressly said they would go peacefully and did not want Bundy and crew there.

Even so, I kinda figured the members of this party would be apprehended later after it all blew over and everyone went home.


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#3
Hands Up Don't Shoot!!!










Too soon?
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Ha ha!


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#5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=1sR1hGpZQ5U

So, did he reach for a "gun" or did he reach for a bullet wound?
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#6
He definitely didn't charge as some have reported. What he was doing with his hands in the video? I'm not sure.
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#7
He had his hands up at one point. It looks like he *may* have tried to reach for something across his body but he got shot the second his hand moved.

If he had been black this would be all over the news, hands up don't shoot.
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RugerGirl;172333 Wrote:He had his hands up at one point. It looks like he *may* have tried to reach for something across his body but he got shot the second his hand moved.

If he had been black this would be all over the news, hands up don't shoot.

It's obvious he dropped his hands. Whether he was reaching for a perceived gun or other weapon or clutching a fresh bullet wound or any other possibility is unknown.

The video is what it is. More questions than answers. Nobody can say good shoot based solely on this video.
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#9
I can say it was a good shoot.
Even if he were "reaching for a candy bar" it was a good shoot.

Clutching a bullet wound? Seriously?
Yeah, I don't think so.

I liked the guy the little I heard him speak, but I don't think it's a stretch to think that he chose to go out the way he did. Especially since he already stated that he wouldn't live his life in a concrete box. (prison)

It appears to me that there was a mix of truth from both "sides" that gave accounts of what happened. That's usually the case in anything like this - the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
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#10
Regardless of what the truth is. The government controls the information that is given out. Take it for what it's worth. And if it's from the government it's $20T in the hole.

If Bundy had only blamed their actions on a YouTube video....
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