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Jorg Schlagzeuger;45871 Wrote:
brownman;45861 Wrote:Its not their home at all. Its someone elses property they are renting. If this was their OWN property, then that dont fly. But its not.

It's not the government's property either. If the owners of the apartment complex decide to set this policy, fine; it's their property. But the government? I have no time for this nanny crap.


That right there is the point. I'm deathly allergic to tobacco smoke but even I would draw the line there. If a property owner wanted to make that part of the lease and advertise themselves as 'smoke free' that's a business decision (which actually may be a good idea Wink) but for it to be mandated is another thing.


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#12
The landlord should be determining whether or not his apartment or condo is smoking or non, and the government should have no say at all.
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soberbyker;45896 Wrote:

Honda motorcycles used to make two versions of their bikes, one for California, which had stricter emission standards, and one for the other 49 states. Now all Honda bikes are California friendly.


What????...........no Honda bikes in Hawaii and Alaska? That's discrimination...!!!
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D10;46843 Wrote:
soberbyker;45896 Wrote:

Honda motorcycles used to make two versions of their bikes, one for California, which had stricter emission standards, and one for the other 49 states. Now all Honda bikes are California friendly.


What????...........no Honda bikes in Hawaii and Alaska? That's discrimination...!!!

hummm, "one (model) for California" and "one (model) for the other 49 states" 1+49=50 .... unless you count the states the way the president does AK and HI are included in my equation????
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soberbyker;46848 Wrote:
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What????...........no Honda bikes in Hawaii and Alaska? That's discrimination...!!!

hummm, "one (model) for California" and "one (model) for the other 49 states" 1+49=50 .... unless you count the states the way the president deos AK and HI are included in my equation????

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#17
Have American bureaucrats in California gone insane? This is something Nazi Germany would pass. Hitler had an aggressive anti-tobacco campaign, but in my limited research I couldn't find anything that said the Nazis went this far.

Every day it seems like some freedom in this country is taken away by a law making it illegal.
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Nope, not the gov't's job. If the owners of the condo want to say no smoking, then that's good. But the gov't? Nope. Don't they have something constructive to do????

I mean, I can see that the smoke from one room could contaminate that of someone else's house...but then, that's why as a buyer/renter you should be vigilant about choosing where you are going to live.
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RugerGirl;46879 Wrote:Nope, not the gov't's job. If the owners of the condo want to say no smoking, then that's good. But the gov't? Nope. Don't they have something constructive to do????

I mean, I can see that the smoke from one room could contaminate that of someone else's house...but then, that's why as a renter you should be vigilant about choosing where you are going to live.

So if you're going to rent an apartment or buy a condo, you should knock on all your possible new neighbors doors to see if they smoke, or do anything else you disapprove of?

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soberbyker;46900 Wrote:
RugerGirl;46879 Wrote:Nope, not the gov't's job. If the owners of the condo want to say no smoking, then that's good. But the gov't? Nope. Don't they have something constructive to do????

I mean, I can see that the smoke from one room could contaminate that of someone else's house...but then, that's why as a renter you should be vigilant about choosing where you are going to live.

So if you're going to rent an apartment or buy a condo, you should knock on all your possible new neighbors doors to see if they smoke, or do anything else you disapprove of?


No of course not.

But you can see how clean or maintained the building looks...does the apartment you're looking at smell like smoke? You can ask the landlord if there are a lot of smokers in the area or if he has any sections that are smoke-free. Etc.

Obviously you can't be perfect about it, but you can get a decent idea about an apartment by just observing, sniffing the air, and talking to the landlord. *Shrug* I mean, if I walk into a place and it already smells like cigarettes, I'm probably not going to want to rent there.
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