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California DOJ Issues Letter Requiring Micro-Stamping On Semi-Auto Handguns
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bac0nfat;103263 Wrote:Wow, screw them, really?

Why waste the effort when they won't help themselves?

Quote:There are many pro-gun rights voters in CA who are politically active and fight as hard as they can. So instead of us encouraging them or lending a helping hand, we're just gonna say screw them? We should stick together if we want to win these battles, so I encourage you to rethink that mentality.

The reason we've been losing a lot of these battles has to do with cognitive dissonance - e.g. the people who say "I'm gonna vote for Obama, he's for da Yuuunionz, he ain't gonna take our guns", despite the DNC having a long history of gun-snatching behavior. Also, that dissonance is present amongst those fake constitutionalists and libertarians who have no problems voting for the DNC when it suits them.

At some point Atlas shrugs, and decides to pick up some other burden.
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#32
kunsunoke;103321 Wrote:Why waste the effort when they won't help themselves?

That is where you are mistaken, on two accounts. For one, it's not a wasted effort. Some battles are won slowly, but no one has even won a battle by giving up. Two, that's a very broad generalization to say they wont help themselves. It's not like there are zero pro-gun guys out there; they are simply outnumbered by the bleeding heart liberals. I would hope that if I were ever in battle and was outnumbered by the enemy, that some of you guys would back me up. And I would do the same for anyone here. Why should our allies in California be treated any different?

ETA: If you really feel that way, why don't you go post on Calguns and tell them directly? See what kind of response you get.
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It's the same way with Jersey. There are a lot of "good ole country folks" in south Jersey. There are lots of farms and open land in southern Jersey, and many of those people are firearm owners. They HATE central and north Jersey. They also hate Philly because a lot of "them city folks" are moving from Philly to the rural areas of south Jersey and trying to change things that have been going on there for generations. No more fishing, hunting, shooting, horseback riding, and "mudding" once the yuppies move into these areas. It doesn't matter if you have been horseback riding through their property the last 40 years, now they don't want you anywhere near their property.
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Philadelphia Patriot;103325 Wrote:It's the same way with Jersey. There are a lot of "good ole country folks" in south Jersey. There are lots of farms and open land in southern Jersey, and many of those people are firearm owners. They HATE central and north Jersey. They also hate Philly because a lot of "them city folks" are moving from Philly to the rural areas of south Jersey and trying to change things that have been going on there for generations. No more fishing, hunting, shootings, horseback riding, and "mudding" once the yuppies move into these area. It doesn't matter if you have been horseback riding through their property the last 40 years, now they don't want you anywhere near their property.

Yeah but, screw them! Dodgy
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bac0nfat;103324 Wrote:That is where you are mistaken, on two accounts. For one, it's not a wasted effort.

In the case of NY and CA, it is a wasted effort.

Governor Cuomo and his DNC-controlled legislature in Albany just leveraged Newtown to impose more draconian gun control measures. California has some of the most insane gun control in the nation, outside of DC, NY, NJ and Illinois. Neither of those states is likely to relinquish the gun control they've imposed, since it would mean the elected officials would necessarily give up the power they have successfully usurped.

Having lived in upstate NY myself, I can attest to the fact that there are indeed hunters and sportsmen upstate, and also those that value the ability to defend home and hearth. I feel for those people. I also feel for the Calguns people outside of the urban areas who really do value their Second Amendment rights.

Unfortunately, our potential allies are now far outnumbered by the leeches and welfare moms and their enablers, the rich white liberals who have never held a gun. It's really those people I had in mind in suggesting that they could self-fornicate - because when society breaks down, the government they placed their faith in will inevitably let them down. In fact it may even side with those trying to break the society down.

Calguns and NY gun owners serious about their Constitutional rights ought to consider moving to Texas, or to PA. We can use them here. The other remnants of those two formerly great states can then continue to march forward towards the latrine.

Quote:Some battles are won slowly, but no one has even won a battle by giving up.


It's not giving up. It's recognition that head-on attacks against a well-entrenched enemy are a waste of time and resources better spent elsewhere - such as here in the Commonwealth (where we still have rights to protect).

Quote:Two, that's a very broad generalization to say they wont help themselves.

There are a large number of "gun rights supporters", particularly in CA and NY (also in PA), who inevitably undercut their own position and alienate potential supporters by voting for the gun snatching bastards of the DNC. That's what typically happens when union voters go to the polls and vote for da guy for da yuuninz instead of carefully considering the positions of the union supporter. Those people can get fucked as far as I'm concerned.

Quote:It's not like there are zero pro-gun guys out there; they are simply outnumbered by the bleeding heart liberals.


Right - so wasting resources and effort doesn't make any sense.

Quote:I would hope that if I were ever in battle and was outnumbered by the enemy, that some of you guys would back me up. And I would do the same for anyone here. Why should our allies in California be treated any different?

They live in California. We can't help them.

Quote:ETA: If you really feel that way, why don't you go post on Calguns and tell them directly? See what kind of response you get.

You mean as opposed to dropping them a line and showing how much I care.

Which would do exactly what to benefit the Calguns people?
"Chris Kyle's death seems to confirm that "he who lives by the sword dies by the sword." Treating PTSD at a firing range doesn't make sense."
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