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California lawmakers seek toughest gun laws in nation
#1
It's a race between NY and CA to take away their citizens' Second Amendment rights. The bold emphasis at the end is mine.

LINK: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-5756...in-nation/

CBS/AP/ February 8, 2013, 2:26 AM

SACRAMENTO, Calif. - Weeks after New York enacted the nation's toughest gun laws, California lawmakers said Thursday they want their state to do even more in response to recent mass shootings, particularly the Connecticut school massacre.

Democrats who control the state Legislature revealed 10 proposals that they said would make California the most restrictive state for possessing firearms.

They were joined at a Capitol news conference by San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee and Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa, along with several police chiefs.

"California has always been a leader on the issue of gun safety," Villaraigosa said. "New York has stepped up and stepped forward. California needs to answer the call."

Among the measures is one that would outlaw the future sale of semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines. The restriction would prevent quick reloading by requiring bullets to be loaded one at a time.
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http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news...ut-big-gun

Quote:Steinberg unveiled the package in a news conference Thursday at the state Capitol, flanked by Public Safety Committee Chairwoman Loni Hancock, D-Berkeley; Los Angeles Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa; San Francisco Mayor Ed Lee; and police chiefs Chris Magnus of Richmond, Ken James of Emeryville and Sylvia Moir of El Cerrito.

A bill by Steinberg would ban future sale, purchase, making, importing or transfer in California of any semi-automatic rifle that takes a detachable magazine, by adding such guns to the state's list of banned assault weapons. Another Steinberg bill would require ownership records for all guns; California now keeps only handgun and assault weapon records.

Hancock's bill would ban possession -- not just manufacture and sale -- of large-capacity magazines holding more than 10 rounds.

State Sen. Leland Yee, D-San Francisco, has reintroduced a bill to ban "bullet button" kits that let gun owners effectively sidestep the distinction between detachable and fixed magazines for semi-automatic rifles. Another Yee bill would require that guns be properly locked and stored when their owners aren't present, but that bill wasn't included on Steinberg's list Thursday.

That list also included bills that would:

Require anyone wishing to buy ammunition to first get a permit by passing a background check, as Los Angeles and Sacramento already do.

Update the definition of a banned shotgun with a revolving cylinder to include the new technology of a shotgun-rifle combination.

Prevent unregulated gun loans, with some exceptions, including hunting, in order to keep weapons from those who haven't passed background checks.

Require all handgun owners obtain a safety certificate every year, rather than the every-five-years requirement for purchases of new handguns.

Prohibit anyone barred from owning a weapon from living in a home where weapons are kept and to expand the list of crimes for which convictions result in being barred from gun possession.

Let the state Justice Department use money from the state's Dealer's Record of Sale system to eliminate the backlog of people identified as no longer allowed to own guns but not yet investigated and contacted by law enforcement.
The Second Amendment does not GIVE us the right. It tells the gov they can not infringe our right.
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Its coming. Not if, anymore, but when!
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I hope this causes a California revolution. It may be the last straw there if something like this gets passed.
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Camper;77166 Wrote:I hope this causes a California revolution. It may be the last straw there if something like this gets passed.

You are aware that it is California. The people there surrender faster than the French!
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spblademaker;77169 Wrote:
Camper;77166 Wrote:I hope this causes a California revolution. It may be the last straw there if something like this gets passed.

You are aware that it is California. The people there surrender faster than the French!

I'm not sure about that. They're willing to take it up the ass on a lot of things (no gay joke intended, but damn that's kinda funny) but I think too far is too far.

When I was in Iraq I met a lot of Cali Army Guard guys, one who owned a gun shop, and I poked him about the gun laws, and he more or less said that not everyone wants that but the social issues outside guns drive the politics. He said that he believes if they try to crack down harder, that the gay right republicans and moderates who vote left will more or less revolt, because they're already more restrictive than they want.

How true that is, we shall see.
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spblademaker;77169 Wrote:
Camper;77166 Wrote:I hope this causes a California revolution. It may be the last straw there if something like this gets passed.

You are aware that it is California. The people there surrender faster than the French!

How true!
Last year before things turned Calguns had a huge thread, "What restrictions would you approve of". The majority of gun owners wanted MORE restrictions. Sad
The Second Amendment does not GIVE us the right. It tells the gov they can not infringe our right.
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Quote:Possession of hollow point bullets and similar assault bullets a felony.

Must register and report ammo purchases.

Only purchase max 500 rounds.

10 round magazine limit

ALL magazines must be fixed to the gun (can not be removed without the use of a tool)

100% prohibition of all magazines greater than 10 rounds.

All previous grandfathered magazines become illegal. Felony if you keep one.

Changing definition of shotgun revolving cylinder — Basically only single shot shotguns will remain legal.

Bullet Buttons will become illegal — All AR and AK style rifles that are currently equipped with them will be designated Assault Weapons. Felony to possess.

All gun owners now must be licensed like drivers.

All gun owners must carry gun liability insurance


There will also be annual certifications that must be achieved…. and of course paid for.

http://gunmartblog.com/2013/02/08/califo...yrannical/

It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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#9
Hmmmm...Senators Steinberg and Feinstein! How quickly you forgot how well gun control worked for your relatives in Germany.
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What part of "Shall not be infringed" don't they understand? Dodgy
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