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AndrewG23;47548 Wrote:
IronSight;47537 Wrote:The new license is a small laminated card, but it is still just laminated and is, as far as I am aware, paper underneath the laminate. It's just smaller. At least that's my understanding, I may have to check that (I have the older and larger paper version that I laminated myself, it's falling apart already).


I responded to this in the other thread. If you want an update there's nothing wrong with doing so, at least not under the law as I understand it (not a lawyer here). However, if you renew in your new county before your old license expires your old license may get marked in the system as 'revoked' with possible implications for applications to other state's non-resident licenses resulting from that. Currently Sheriffs and the PSP are marking licenses as 'revoked' without a care for those implications, and without telling people about it, and they are currently doing that for lost/stolen/early-updated licenses as far as I am aware.

Yeah my LTCF is new as from May of this year. So you think I'm better off not messing with anything until my 5 years is up? I just don't want any problems with my ID being my New address and my LTCF being my old address I'm moving from York county to Dauphin county PA.

You aren't required to update your address and there won't be a problem if you don't. As IronSight said you may encounter problems if you do try to get a new license in your new county of residence. The only thing you might want to do is inform the Sheriff's off in your old county of residence of your new address so that the reminder they send out goes to your actual address. Since you still have more than 4 years to go if they send the reminder to your old address it won't be forwarded. If you might be moving within that 4+ year time span you'd be better off making a note to yourself and put it in a place where you're sure to see it before your expiration date so you don't forget.

Quote:(f) Term of license.--

(1) A license to carry a firearm issued under subsection (e) shall be valid throughout this Commonwealth for a period of five years unless extended under paragraph (3) or sooner revoked.

(2) At least 60 days prior to the expiration of each license, the issuing sheriff shall send to the licensee an application for renewal of license. Failure to receive a renewal application shall not relieve a licensee from the responsibility to renew the license.

3) Notwithstanding paragraph (1) or any other provision of law to the contrary, a license to carry a firearm that is held by a member of the United States Armed Forces or the Pennsylvania National Guard on Federal active duty and deployed overseas that is scheduled to expire during the period of deployment shall be extended until 90 days after the end of the deployment.

http://www.legis.state.pa.us/WU01/LI/LI/...0.061..HTM
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#12
AndrewG23;47548 Wrote:
IronSight;47537 Wrote:The new license is a small laminated card, but it is still just laminated and is, as far as I am aware, paper underneath the laminate. It's just smaller. At least that's my understanding, I may have to check that (I have the older and larger paper version that I laminated myself, it's falling apart already).


I responded to this in the other thread. If you want an update there's nothing wrong with doing so, at least not under the law as I understand it (not a lawyer here). However, if you renew in your new county before your old license expires your old license may get marked in the system as 'revoked' with possible implications for applications to other state's non-resident licenses resulting from that. Currently Sheriffs and the PSP are marking licenses as 'revoked' without a care for those implications, and without telling people about it, and they are currently doing that for lost/stolen/early-updated licenses as far as I am aware.

Yeah my LTCF is new as from May of this year. So you think I'm better off not messing with anything until my 5 years is up? I just don't want any problems with my ID being my New address and my LTCF being my old address I'm moving from York county to Dauphin county PA.

It's a decision I can't make for you. If you renew you have a LTCF that matches your license, which is an aid if you are stopped and the officer involved would otherwise have an issue with a mismatched address. However, if you renew in your new county your old license will, according to the current standard practice as I understand it, get marked 'revoked' in the system. Could that ever be a problem? I don't know.

I personally, in your situation, would just inform the old sheriff of the change of address as I see the risk of an issue on a stop as being small. After all, the officer can still call to verify your license. I would then wait till much closer to the license expiration to renew in the new county. It's not legal advice, it's not an assurance you'll never have an issue, it's just what I would personally do.
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I agree with IronSight, inform the sheriff of the county you are moving from of your new address and don't worry any more about it.
It's not like your driver's license where you are required to update your address within a certain amount of time.
Not renewing or updating is standard practice, trying to renew could conceivably cause problems if your old license is marked in such a way as to look as though it's been suspended or revoked, not to mention the fact that the $25.00 could go toward ammo or something else useful.
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Ok guys. Great advise! Thank you. I'm just going to give him my new address and inform him I'm moving!
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Until recently, I was on board with the whole "update your address" crowd. Then one day I received a text from my ex-wife.

She was getting ready to move out of state (a non-reciprocal state). Her PA license was MIA, so she contacted our local Sheriff's office to get a replacement. She was informed "someone had called with a complaint" and that her license had been revoked 18 months earlier. She was shocked, as she had not received notice, nor had she had any type of interaction with the police during that time.

I suggested that she speak to the Sheriff himself in person, explain her situation, remind him of her connection to me, and remind the Sheriff of his public embarrassment over my whole ordeal. When that happened, all was cleared up in 5 minutes. There was no record of any "complaint", and no record of notification of the revocation.

The final explanation: Because you changed your name and address at the same time (she remarried), "the system" suspected you were trying to pull a fast one and "automatically" revoked your license. I don't buy that at all, but be it human error, or some bizarre system glitch, it seems unlikely that either would have happened if she had simply let things ride. Update the info if you wish, but be aware that that action itself could potentially create an issue.

Imagine if she had been in a situation where her LTCF had been presented to an officer for verification, rather than simply calling for a replacement.
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gnbrotz;47991 Wrote:Until recently, I was on board with the whole "update your address" crowd. Then one day I received a text from my ex-wife.

She was getting ready to move out of state (a non-reciprocal state). Her PA license was MIA, so she contacted our local Sheriff's office to get a replacement. She was informed "someone had called with a complaint" and that her license had been revoked 18 months earlier. She was shocked, as she had not received notice, nor had she had any type of interaction with the police during that time.

I suggested that she speak to the Sheriff himself in person, explain her situation, remind him of her connection to me, and remind the Sheriff of his public embarrassment over my whole ordeal. When that happened, all was cleared up in 5 minutes. There was no record of any "complaint", and no record of notification of the revocation.

The final explanation: Because you changed your name and address at the same time (she remarried), "the system" suspected you were trying to pull a fast one and "automatically" revoked your license. I don't buy that at all, but be it human error, or some bizarre system glitch, it seems unlikely that either would have happened if she had simply let things ride. Update the info if you wish, but be aware that that action itself could potentially create an issue.

Imagine if she had been in a situation where her LTCF had been presented to an officer for verification, rather than simply calling for a replacement.

My wife did the same thing. The deputy updated the system with her on the phone, with no problems at all. Seems like either a significant "human error" (Hey, what does the "REVOKE' button do? Eh, I'll click it and find out.) or they messed up, didn't want a hassle and made up a story to make you go away.
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