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CAN THE POLICE TAKE YOUR GUN(S) DURING A STATE OF EMERGENCY?
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/can-your...emergency/

There is video - a must read and must watch please!

Quote:Cam Edwards, of NRA News, joined Glenn Beck on his television program Monday to discuss Americans’ gun rights during a state of emergency.

“You need to know your rights,” Beck said. “This is what happens when people’s rights are trampled in an emergency…Somebody takes advantage of that situation,” he later added.

Beck went on to air part of a news report about a woman who was disarmed and forced from her home during Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans.
“I said, ‘it’s not even loaded,’ while I dropped it on the floor and they punched me in the face,” Konie says in the video report. “They dragged me out of here. I really thought they were going to kill me. I really did.”

.....In 2006, then-President George W. Bush signed an executive order called the Disaster Recovery Personal Protection Act that strengthened individual gun rights during a national emergency.....

So, if you find yourself in the same situation as Patty Konie in the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy, Edwards said there are a few things you should be mindful of:

“You cooperate, you get the names [of the officers], you get all the information that you can, you hire an attorney and you have that attorney contact the NRA Civil Rights Defense Fund,” he said......
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#2
Realistically, they can take whatever they want, whenever they want.
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#3
Of course we know they can and will.....but legally - we do have protection.

BUT - STILL many from Katrina have not gotten theirs back. They are rusting away somewhere...if they even exist at all.
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#4
So... let's have a thought exercise. We've all have said "from my cold dead hands" when it comes to the second amendment...,

How about if "they" came knocking on our doors asking for our guns during Sandy?

What would you do?

Justin
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18 Pa.C.S. § 6107: Prohibited conduct during emergency
(a) General rule.--No person shall carry a firearm upon the public streets or upon any public property during an emergency proclaimed by a State or municipal governmental executive unless that person is:
(1) Actively engaged in a defense of that person's life or property from peril or threat.
(2) Licensed to carry firearms under section 6109 (relating to licenses) or is exempt from licensing under section 6106(b) (relating to firearms not to be carried without a license).
(b) Seizure, taking and confiscation.--Except as otherwise provided under subsection (a) and notwithstanding the provisions of 35 Pa.C.S. Ch. 73 (relating to Commonwealth services) or any other provision of law to the contrary, no firearm, accessory or ammunition may be seized, taken or confiscated during an emergency unless the seizure, taking or confiscation would be authorized absent the emergency.
Definitions.--As used in this section, the following words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this subsection:
"Accessory." Any scope, sight, bipod, sling, light, magazine, clip or other related item that is attached to or necessary for the operation of a firearm.
"Firearm." The term includes any weapon that is designed to or may readily be converted to expel any projectile by the action of an explosive or the frame or receiver of any weapon.

JustinHEMI;32157 Wrote:So... let's have a thought exercise. We've all have said "from my cold dead hands" when it comes to the second amendment...,

How about if "they" came knocking on our doors asking for our guns during Sandy?

What would you do?

Justin

I would hold a copy of this up to the window:
18 Pa.C.S. § 6107: Prohibited conduct during emergency
and kindly tell them to get the fuck off my porch unless they have a warrant.

Edit to add:
And then if they didn't leave, I would call 911 and report that there are police impersonators attempting to enter my home and steal my belongings. I would explain that they must be looters as real police would know that demanding my firearms is not a legal act under 18 PA.C.S.6107 and if my home is entered during a state of emergency I have to assume the person/s are looters and are intending to do me and my family harm.
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#6
Well officer, I'd like to give them to you, but unfortunately they're all at the bottom of Raystown lake on account of a recent tragic boating accident.
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#7
Seriously though, start recording, speak to them from second story window. Ask them what they want and on whose authority they are acting. Get names/badge numbers. Read "18 Pa.C.S. § 6107: Prohibited conduct during emergency" out the window. Assert that I don't consent to a search or seizure of my person or property, then close the window.

If they come in with force, I won't put up a fight. I will hand over whatever guns they ask for, and I won't volunteer any they don't. I will get receipts for them all and record everything on video. I see "from my cold dead hands" to apply on a national scale. The federal gov isn't going to disarm the entire country under the guise of a local storm.

ETA: My beef is with the whoever issued the order. I will have words with a lawyer, then that person.
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#8
Good ideas folks.

Justin
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#9
Realistically, they would probably confiscate your weapons voluntarily or by force regardless of what the law states. After the state of emergency is over, gun owners will file complaints against the police. The police will acknowledge that they were wrong but had good intentions of getting weapons off the streets. The firearms will be returned in conditions that may or may not be as it was at the time of confiscation. Policies will be rewritten, verbal review will be done at roll call, and fonts for that specific statute will be changed from size 12 to 13.

If the police do go around knocking door-to-door and asking if you have weapons, there is a good probability that they've used the sales database to pull info on your purchases and know what you have and they're going to leave with something. Good thing long guns can be privately transferred to other law abiding citizens without any required documentation.
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#10
Here's a thought, how long to do think it would take before the word got out that a confiscation party was taking place? How many law enforcement personnel do you think it would take to confiscate all the firearms in this state, in a short period of time?
I'm only here for the 'Foxes with Firearms' thread.

If they take our guns, who will protect our children?


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