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been getting buggy for something new. also been doing some homework on doing a 1911 build. pretty much settled on caspian frame, slide and some small parts. anyone with first hand experience with their products such as quality, fit ect. would like some imput before dropping serious $. met some of their people in saint louis this year, great folks and the products there looked good.
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#2
Not to knock Capsian, since they are supplying the USMC with their 1911 frames and slides.

But for a custom build, have you considered using a Taurus as a build?

Its a forged frame, and slide Wink

And the cost for that used, and getting the proper parts, a good checkering job on the front strap and perhaps plating it, might be lower than going Caspian. Then adding the custom parts and hand fitting them to the Caspian frame and slide will only make the build more expensive.

Some folks rag on Taurus, but if you are going race gun or competition, or combat it does make for a good build platform.

Also the hard part of getting a 1911 to run is fitting the slide to frame. It takes time and plenty of skill and patience to do that right. With the Taurus that part is already done. All that is needed is to fit a match type barrel and bushing.

Alternative option is to get a new Colt Gold Cup and have Colt do the Combat package to it, and have them checker the front strap. That is the route I took.

There are plenty of other options out there, it just depends on how deep your wallet is, or your skill set.

Good luck either way you go.
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#3
thanks for the ideas and suggestions. you are right about the taurus, i have one now. very reliable and accurate right out of the box. trigger pull is not to bad either. have several so called budget 1911 guns rock island commander size and two taurus full size guns. have found these to be totally satisfactory especially considering what i paid for them. was looking for something more upscale and unique. was told by the girls at caspian they would match the slide and frame so this part would be done correctly.
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red dog;16762 Wrote:thanks for the ideas and suggestions. you are right about the taurus, i have one now. very reliable and accurate right out of the box. trigger pull is not to bad either. have several so called budget 1911 guns rock island commander size and two taurus full size guns. have found these to be totally satisfactory especially considering what i paid for them. was looking for something more upscale and unique. was told by the girls at caspian they would match the slide and frame so this part would be done correctly.

Might have a winner on your hands there with them fitting the slide to frame. Wink

Might want to have them also fit a match grade barrel and bushing as well.

Then all you have left is the fitting of the sear and hammer and the thumb safety to condend with. With the Kunhausen book that shoud be fairly straigh forward, and not require a bunch of cash for one use only tools.

good luck either way you go and post pics when you are done Big Grin
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gold cup abuser;16265 Wrote:Not to knock Capsian, since they are supplying the USMC with their 1911 frames and slides.

But for a custom build, have you considered using a Taurus as a build?

Its a forged frame, and slide Wink

And the cost for that used, and getting the proper parts, a good checkering job on the front strap and perhaps plating it, might be lower than going Caspian. Then adding the custom parts and hand fitting them to the Caspian frame and slide will only make the build more expensive.

Some folks rag on Taurus, but if you are going race gun or competition, or combat it does make for a good build platform.

Also the hard part of getting a 1911 to run is fitting the slide to frame. It takes time and plenty of skill and patience to do that right. With the Taurus that part is already done. All that is needed is to fit a match type barrel and bushing.

Alternative option is to get a new Colt Gold Cup and have Colt do the Combat package to it, and have them checker the front strap. That is the route I took.

There are plenty of other options out there, it just depends on how deep your wallet is, or your skill set.

Good luck either way you go.

Then it's not a home build. There is something satisfying about knowing you built your own gun from the ground up. And Caspian was good enough for the high end custom 1911 builders for years. Most of the big names used Caspian frames and slides before they had their own built.
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#6
I am never one to knock someone from doing a home build.

It it just with the 1911, there are specalized tools needed to do the build right. Fitting the slide to frame can be done with hand tools, but it is easy to go wrong, and there is no turning back.

Same for fitting the barrel to the locking lugs and the lower barrel lugs. It can be done by hand but again it is easy to go sideways.

Not knowing the OP's familarity with the 1911 then I went on the side of caution.

And of being cheap Big Grin

If it is a true home build then get the armorer's kit for the 1911 from Brownell's and the Kunhausen book and go for broke Wink

The OP has a world of choices on doing a custom build, and building can be half the fun of owning.

Personally, since he has a Taurus 1911, I would start with that as a test bed. Once the skill set is there, and the OP is comfortable in his skills, then go Caspian.

I do belive they have a 'scratch and dent' section on their website. Should bring the cost of the build down as well.
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#7
I believe Foster is Caspians scratch and dent section. If you're not in a hurry, they sometimes have fitted frame and slide sets on there.
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#8
again more good ideas. i,m a big fan of kuhnhausen and his manuals. most of the way through the first volumn and i,m going to get the second. i don,t mind getting the tools to do a job correctly it just gives me more of a reason to use them again. i have done other builds such as ar,s fal uzi ect. when i come across a problem i stop and educate myself then proceed. i have always found it easier to learn by doing and it really helps with retention of what you learn. thanks again and when this project is done it will be posted with pics.
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