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CNN Money Reporter Says It's Time for a Gas Tax Hike
#11
glocke12;48126 Wrote:How about they stop spending money like there is no tomorrow..

seems impossible for politicians...

almost as impossible as putting a large cheese pizza in front of a fat guy and not expecting him to eat it.
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#12
Quote:The government hands out about $50 billion a year to states and towns to help with road costs.

Must be with other states......we have more fuckin' potholes then we have cars here.
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#13
Of course! That make perfect sense! The oil companies do the exploration, take the risk on drilling, build the pipelines and pay for the transportation, of both crude and finished product and operate the refineries and distribution systems. And their profit is 8 to 10 cents per gallon. It just stands to reason that the government who does NOTHING to bring the product to market should get 33.7 cents per gallon!
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#14
Now, where did I put that flame suit... OK I got it now.

I'm actually OK with this particular tax increase. So long as every cent of it goes back to rebuilding our roads and bridges. I am against almost every tax increase that comes along and I think that government should cut back to a mere fraction of what it's spending in almost all other areas. But the truth of the matter is that our roadway systems are aging rapidly and we need to be proactive in rebuilding them before it's a huge problem. I can't remember off the top of my head what percentage of bridges in the US are in need of major repair, but its large. I want to say one out of every three but I just can't remember. There are few things I think the government should be involved in but our roads is one that I think is their job to build and maintain.

A higher tax on gas would certainly hurt don't get me wrong. It would put a strain on a lot of people (including me and my f250) but this is a necessary evil. This is like if your roof is deteriorating and it needs to be redone. You may be tight on cash but you take the cuts, and pay for the fix before it costs you a lot more. I would hate to watch our infrastructure fall apart faster than we can fix it because we wouldn't make the sacrifices needed to turn it around.

Flame away.
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#15
Tax on your vehicle, drivers license fees, tolls, and registration fees etc were to go to to maintain roads and bridges.

Just like you can bet on what will happen with this gas tax, the money is diverted elsewhere.
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Shisno;48346 Wrote:Now, where did I put that flame suit... OK I got it now.

I'm actually OK with this particular tax increase. So long as every cent of it goes back to rebuilding our roads and bridges. I am against almost every tax increase that comes along and I think that government should cut back to a mere fraction of what it's spending in almost all other areas. But the truth of the matter is that our roadway systems are aging rapidly and we need to be proactive in rebuilding them before it's a huge problem. I can't remember off the top of my head what percentage of bridges in the US are in need of major repair, but its large. I want to say one out of every three but I just can't remember. There are few things I think the government should be involved in but our roads is one that I think is their job to build and maintain.

A higher tax on gas would certainly hurt don't get me wrong. It would put a strain on a lot of people (including me and my f250) but this is a necessary evil. This is like if your roof is deteriorating and it needs to be redone. You may be tight on cash but you take the cuts, and pay for the fix before it costs you a lot more. I would hate to watch our infrastructure fall apart faster than we can fix it because we wouldn't make the sacrifices needed to turn it around.

Flame away.

The money will never make it to the road. "They" will find multiple uses for it, except for its stated intention, much like the tax on smokes going to everything BUT smoker education. They bet on masses of dupes buying into the idea that "your tax dollars will go to the roads". Its a bunch of bull. The Beast is desperate for more funds to feed its growing girth.
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Shisno;48346 Wrote:I'm actually OK with this particular tax increase. So long as every cent of it goes back to rebuilding our roads and bridges.

Except that the Federal government does not maintain (or for that matter build) any roads or bridges, though they do in some instances provide funding on a "matching funds" basis. The gasoline tax at both federal and state has been "bent" waay from roads to "transportation" and includes such things as the "John Murtha" Airport, the "high-speed" rail project in Cali, operation of SEPTA and other "mass trans" projects. That is unless the money gets purloined for other purposes.
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#18
I had a longer well thought out (to me) response typed out but screw it, this sums up my thoughts better.

CNN and their experts can go fuck themselves. As long as an incredible amount of our tax money is wasted stupid shit, I will not be okay with new taxes. Not 1 cent, not 15 cents. Time to be responsible with the taxes we already pay.
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#19
diesel fuel tax is $0.63 a gallon in pa. my last full year trucking (2009) i used just under 17,000 gallons of fuel. do the math and think how many trucks you see going down the road and how much money that is.

my tags were right around $1,800 .

then you have road taxes and those depend on how many states you travel and where you buy fuel . average for me was $2,500 to $2,800 a year

then there is a federal highway use fee of $550 which you must pay and provide the receipt to renew your tags.

then there is a fee for the Universal Carrier Fee which just shows you have insurance when you are pulled over that runs $79 for 1 truck and 1 trailer and goes up for every additional piece of equipment.

and dont forget toll (tax) from eastern pa to long island and back will cost $160

alot of $$$$$$$$ but never seems to be enough
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middlefinger;48482 Wrote:diesel fuel tax is $0.63 a gallon in pa. my last full year trucking (2009) i used just under 17,000 gallons of fuel. do the math and think how many trucks you see going down the road and how much money that is.

my tags were right around $1,800 .

then you have road taxes and those depend on how many states you travel and where you buy fuel . average for me was $2,500 to $2,800 a year

then there is a federal highway use fee of $550 which you must pay and provide the receipt to renew your tags.

then there is a fee for the Universal Carrier Fee which just shows you have insurance when you are pulled over that runs $79 for 1 truck and 1 trailer and goes up for every additional piece of equipment.

and dont forget toll (tax) from eastern pa to long island and back will cost $160

alot of $$$$$$$$ but never seems to be enough

and what is there to show for it? strictly speaking about PA and some of the neighboring states, we have some of the worst roads and bridges in the entire country.
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