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I love being called a "baiter" simply because I exercise my right to carry a gun. Angry

I prefer "American" or "citizen" or the like.

Why do "experts" and politicians think that only "experts" and politicians should be allowed to carry a gun?

And why do so many morons think OC is going to create some kind of Wild West shootout? Has that EVER happened?
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#12
I can understand the brotherhood in law enforcement, but it pisses me off when police officers back up other officers (bringing up the thin blue line) even when they are wrong or have done something horrible.

As firearm owners you never hear any of us supporting the actions of the Columbine shooters, Colorado movie theater shooter, or the Fort Hood shooter because they are firearm owners.
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Philadelphia Patriot;48220 Wrote:I can understand the brotherhood in law enforcement, but it pisses me off when police officers back up other officers (bringing up the thin blue line) even when they are wrong or have done something horrible.

Well it happens--any large organization behaves like this, military or non. It's studied intensely in Sociology how and why rules and mores and a whole culture is created (and how they can change), and how those rules within the organization can form that run afoul of what society outside an organization finds totally unacceptable.

Know anybody who was SERIOUSLY big-time into Amway? It's a large organization, very flat and very spread out--but it's a culture. The March of Dimes is a classic Sociology study in how humans behave in very large groups--the people naturally do whatever they can to preserve the institution in general.

When polio was cured, March of Dimes suddenly had completed its goal. So, it keep the organization alive, they switched it to infant diseases and mortality--something that's naturally impossible to eliminate completely. Now the organization can exist in perpetuity.

Sometimes to fix an organization that's large and has completely run afoul of what society at-large deems acceptable, you have to threaten the entire existence of the organization itself, which puts most everyone in it in panic mode, willing to accept whatever changes are necessary.


For most LEO's who have a very negative opinion of OC, they've collectively and individually decided that stop-and-harass is A-OK. And it's accepted at the top, because if it wasn't, the protocol for how to deal with this situation would be shoved down recruits throats in training; or, commanders are telling people in the field "look this is just some bullshit we have to do--what you've been doing is fine don't worry about it."

These incidents continue to happen, some cops overreact, and well--the YouTube videos annoy them to death, which is good, because they would rather nobody pay attention to this.

If they want OC'ers they think are "overtly trying to display their rights", then treat OC'ers in a consistent manner, develop a procedure, and follow it. Mouthing off bullshit about laws and restrictions that don't exist just reinforces it to gun-owners that you're a stupid fuck--and so you'll have more negative incidents and encourage more people to OC that you don't wanna. Check the LTCF, validate it, and move on.
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