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Corbett supports non discrimination bill.
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It seems someone put their finger in the air and realized, like I've said, that he was on the wrong side of the equality issue.

Now I can vote for him for gun rights and equality. Win win.

"Equality PA, Executive Director, Ted Martin commended Gov. Corbett for his public support of HB 300 today. HB 300 and its Senate counterpart, SB 300, amends the Pennsylvania Human Relations Act by prohibiting discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodation on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity or expression.

Martin on Gov. Corbett’s statement: “Gov. Corbett showed leadership today by supporting HB 300/SB 300, the state’s non-discrimination bill. His support for this bill underscores that people of Pennsylvania understand that while we may not all have the same views and beliefs, we all deserve to be able to earn a living to support ourselves, to support our families, and to contribute to society. Thank you, Gov. Corbett, for calling out discrimination in all its forms.”


http://www.equalitypa.org/equality-pa-co...tion-bill/


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JustinHEMI;128830 Wrote:It seems someone put their finger in the air and realized, like I've said, that he was on the wrong side of the equality issue.

Now I can vote for him for gun rights and equality. Win win.

"Equality PA, Executive Director, Ted Martin commended Gov. Corbett for his public support of HB 300 today. HB 300 and its Senate counterpart, SB 300, amends the Pennsylvania Human Relations Act by prohibiting discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodation on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity or expression.

Martin on Gov. Corbett’s statement: “Gov. Corbett showed leadership today by supporting HB 300/SB 300, the state’s non-discrimination bill. His support for this bill underscores that people of Pennsylvania understand that while we may not all have the same views and beliefs, we all deserve to be able to earn a living to support ourselves, to support our families, and to contribute to society. Thank you, Gov. Corbett, for calling out discrimination in all its forms.”


http://www.equalitypa.org/equality-pa-co...tion-bill/


Justin

Corbett desperately needs the Philadelphia suburbs to have any hope of re-election. Dunno if this sudden shift will work for him.
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ArcticSplash;128833 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;128830 Wrote:It seems someone put their finger in the air and realized, like I've said, that he was on the wrong side of the equality issue.

Now I can vote for him for gun rights and equality. Win win.

"Equality PA, Executive Director, Ted Martin commended Gov. Corbett for his public support of HB 300 today. HB 300 and its Senate counterpart, SB 300, amends the Pennsylvania Human Relations Act by prohibiting discrimination in employment, housing, and public accommodation on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity or expression.

Martin on Gov. Corbett’s statement: “Gov. Corbett showed leadership today by supporting HB 300/SB 300, the state’s non-discrimination bill. His support for this bill underscores that people of Pennsylvania understand that while we may not all have the same views and beliefs, we all deserve to be able to earn a living to support ourselves, to support our families, and to contribute to society. Thank you, Gov. Corbett, for calling out discrimination in all its forms.”


http://www.equalitypa.org/equality-pa-co...tion-bill/


Justin

Corbett desperately needs the Philadelphia suburbs to have any hope of re-election. Dunno if this sudden shift will work for him.

I think he's too damaged on the Philly schools funding issue to get the Philly burbs. Even though it's not their schools, it resonates with them.
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Justin, do you also support Corbett increasing the PA gas tax another 25 cents per gallon, making PA have the highest gas tax in the country?

Also, I don't support anti-discrimination laws. I support the free market, let the people decide winners and losers, not the government. First of all, with the speed of information today, no business who openly discriminates against gays will survive anyway. It's too politically incorrect of a stance this day and age.

Also, this law will open the doors to frivolous lawsuits from money hungry people who claim to be discriminated against. 99% of the time it wont be worth fighting in court and the company will settle out of court. It will do nothing to protect gays, and will only increase the number of payouts to people who weren't actually discriminated against.

And for the record, I support the right's of gays, I think they should be able to get married, but I don't believe in a protectionist society or creating protected classes. Heck, if a gay guy wanted to start a restaurant where straight people weren't allowed, I'd be fine with that. Same with blacks, women, whatever. You should be free to run your business how you want, hire/fire who you want, and service who you want.
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bac0nfat;128867 Wrote:Justin, do you also support Corbett increasing the PA gas tax another 25 cents per gallon, making PA have the highest gas tax in the country?

Also, I don't support anti-discrimination laws. I support the free market, let the people decide winners and losers, not the government. First of all, with the speed of information today, no business who openly discriminates against gays will survive anyway. It's too politically incorrect of a stance this day and age.

Also, this law will open the doors to frivolous lawsuits from money hungry people who claim to be discriminated against. 99% of the time it wont be worth fighting in court and the company will settle out of court. It will do nothing to protect gays, and will only increase the number of payouts to people who weren't actually discriminated against.

And for the record, I support the right's of gays, I think they should be able to get married, but I don't believe in a protectionist society or creating protected classes. Heck, if a gay guy wanted to start a restaurant where straight people weren't allowed, I'd be fine with that. Same with blacks, women, whatever. You should be free to run your business how you want, hire/fire who you want, and service who you want.


Your choice will be to re-elect Corbett, or vote for whatever Democrat wins the primary.

I bet Daryl Metcalfe's head exploded this morning.
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Why the straw man in your first sentence?

It's easy to be against these things when you're not one of the ones that can be fired because of something that you were born with.

Yet another way that I disagree with the libertarian party. If your idea worked, these protections wouldn't be necessary, but our own history proves otherwise.

Just because someone may abuse it is not an argument against it.

Justin
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JustinHEMI;128870 Wrote:Why the straw man in your first sentence?

It's easy to be against these things when you're not one of the ones that can be fired because of something that you were born with.

Yet another way that I disagree with the libertarian party. If your idea worked, these protections wouldn't be necessary, but our own history proves otherwise.

Just because someone may abuse it is not an argument against it.

Justin

The first sentence was in response to your comment about Corbett being a win-win, that's all.

And I could be fired for anything. I could be fired because I'm too tall, or too skinny, or for my political views, or the fact that I own guns. But I'm not seeking protection for all those things because I recognize that an employment agreement is voluntary on both ends, and either party can terminate it for any reason or no reason at all, and that's the way it should be.

Now we are saying that you can't be fired because you are gay. Well why not say that you can't quit if you find out your boss is gay? What's the difference? Forcing an employer to provide a job for you is no different than forcing you to work for them. It's supposed to be 100% voluntary on both ends, changing that will make things messy.
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There are already a ton of employment laws on the books....I've talked to people in hire/fire positions and they tell me you can hardly fire a worthless worker anymore...let alone fire someone you do not like. You can get sued for any little thing you are even perceived to have done wrong.

I have not seen the type of discrimination that this law purports to protect from, nor have I heard of there being a problem with this in our state.

Simple political posturing, that is all.

BTW if you don't get hired for a job, how do you prove you were wronged? When I was looking for a job I was not hired for a bunch of them. Was I supposed to sue them all for not hiring me?
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RugerGirl;128873 Wrote:BTW if you don't get hired for a job, how do you prove you were wronged? When I was looking for a job I was not hired for a bunch of them. Was I supposed to sue them all for not hiring me?

That's the problem, you can't prove it, and they won't admit it. You'll have to sue which means a burden on the employer, and they will probably settle out of court for a few thousand. This is not gonna help anyone except for those who are looking for a handout.
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bac0nfat;128872 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;128870 Wrote:Why the straw man in your first sentence?

It's easy to be against these things when you're not one of the ones that can be fired because of something that you were born with.

Yet another way that I disagree with the libertarian party. If your idea worked, these protections wouldn't be necessary, but our own history proves otherwise.

Just because someone may abuse it is not an argument against it.

Justin

The first sentence was in response to your comment about Corbett being a win-win, that's all.

And I could be fired for anything. I could be fired because I'm too tall, or too skinny, or for my political views, or the fact that I own guns. But I'm not seeking protection for all those things because I recognize that an employment agreement is voluntary on both ends, and either party can terminate it for any reason or no reason at all, and that's the way it should be.

Now we are saying that you can't be fired because you are gay. Well why not say that you can't quit if you find out your boss is gay? What's the difference? Forcing an employer to provide a job for you is no different than forcing you to work for them. It's supposed to be 100% voluntary on both ends, changing that will make things messy.

I'm voting for him on guns alone, this is just a bonus. It has nothing to do with anything else.

And no, you can't be fired for being too tall, or too skinny, or any other physical trait that you're born with. Soon, gays will enjoy the same protection, and rightfully so.

Justin
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