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Could Karl Rove Ditch the Tea Party; Or: Is Tea Party Dead?
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The group think that is Progressives. . . Socialists. . . The media. . . Democrats, cannot understand that a movement such as the Tea Party is NOT run by a central group or "celebrity" and that there isnt any one person who speaks for all of us. That they label us extremists etc, and seek every chance to make light of the movement gives light to the fact that they fear us because we are what they would love but will never be: a grass roots movement.
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#42
MrPeanut;42474 Wrote:It is a collection of individuals who initiated a movement.

What group did that loose collection of individuals choose to associate with?

I affiliate myself with whoever the hell i want to associate myself with.

The R's more often agree with my sensibilities than the D's, but sometimes i find myself in agreement with the D's, and other times in agreement with the Lib's, but that's neither here nor there.

The principles that led me to support the Tea party have not changed, nor have my views. The Tea Party is an idea, more than anything else.
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#43
longcall911;42547 Wrote:
MrPeanut;42477 Wrote:You just don't seem to understand that while the tea party movement has great merit, they are being attacked because of the extreme views of who they associate with. Associating with those types of individuals was "dopey".

Who people associate with, as individuals or groups, has consequences, and establishes how others view them. Those opinions have great affect on perceived relevance.

I hope that given some time and introspection you can understand what I am trying to communicate to you.

Well, you don't seem to understand that there is a difference between saying "the TEA Party is irrelevant" and saying "In my opinion, the TEA Party is irrelevant".

This is basic forum communication skills. The first quote I used is an expression of fact. The second is an expression of opinion. I would have made no comment had you expressed an opinion.

You also don't understand that the TEA Party is attacked because is it the enemy of socialism/progressivism. Who paints conservatives a extreme? Progressives. . . Socialists. . . The media. . . Democrats.

People say dumb shit all the time. Should the TEA party run away from a Todd Aiken who said something stupid and apologized? How exactly should the TEA party run away from that person? There is no spokesman for the TEA Party. Even if every member wanted to distance himself, how would he do that exactly?

I've explained it elsewhere in this thread. The TEA Party does what it can to support conservatives. It wishes to fill the GOP with those conservatives. That's the whole story.

I don't need time or introspection. I understand what you're saying clearly. I simply disagree. My view is that you are blaming the wrong people. Blame the people who unjustly vilify conservatives, calling them extreme right wingers.

Bill Maher called Sarah Palin a cunt. Why isn't he called a left-wing extremist? Sandra Fluke is out demanding free contraception. Why isn't she called a left-wing extremist? Obama has said that we wants to redistribute wealth. Why isn't he called a left-wing extremist? The answer to all of the above is that they are all democrat socialists.

All conservatives are to be ridiculed, labeled, marginalized, or otherwise destroyed. If the TEA party somehow silenced a handful of people, would the democrat socialist media suddenly stop attacking? The answer is no, no fucking way.

The TEA party is attacked because it represents conservatism, capitalism, freedom of choice, and limited government not because of a handful of people. And I don't consider that opinion. I consider it factual.

The assertion that "they are being attacked because of the extreme views of who they associate with" is an argument that these very same democrat socialists put forth as a distraction. The TEA Party is attacked because it is conservative, and is then painted as extreme in order to silence them.

If you doubt what I am saying, use a very common sense test. Look at who is doing the attacking, and dig into why they are, especially when words like 'right-wing extremist' or 'racist' or 'misogynist' or 'homophobe' are used.

To both you and Valorius.

We will just agree to disagree.

Hopefully, after the sting of the election passes, I hope you will take another look at what I wrote.

The bottom line is, it may be time for the tea party, as a movement of loosely connected people, to get more organized, have some designated spokespeople, and control their message.

A change in strategy is needed.
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MrPeanut;42904 Wrote:To both you and Valorius.

We will just agree to disagree.

Hopefully, after the sting of the election passes, I hope you will take another look at what I wrote.

The bottom line is, it may be time for the tea party, as a movement of loosely connected people, to get more organized, have some designated spokespeople, and control their message.

A change in strategy is needed.

I realize that you think it is a good idea, but in my view, it's just not. What you describe as getting organized, getting spokespeople and controlling the message is pretty much forming a third party. The third party strategy would never work, because the two super-parties would both want it kill it. We haven't had a real third party in what, 100 years?

But, the biggest reason is that America is now a socialist country. 51% of the voters chose socialism. What the TEA party can do is to keep supporting conservatives for office and at the same time, show Americans that socialism is government control over every aspect of their lives and a near-total loss of freedom. Most people don't realize that. The TEA party must educate America about socialism, and must show people how socialism is/has been destroying our economy.

Our zero-recovery is Obama's fault. The recession ended in June of 2009. That is fact. In the 3 1/2 years since then, we've made no progress at all. Why? Because of Obama and his socialist rule. He has caused untold suffering and hardship.

When people begin to really see who is at fault and then learn about conservatism, they may (yes only maybe) decide to reverse course. My personal mission is to expose socialism at every turn and to preach individual freedom to everyone who is willing to listen.

My suggestion is that no one site around and wait for the TEA party or any other party to save this country. Every lover of liberty must be exposing the tyrants now, and must propose conservatism as the solution. The socialists are inside, and they've locked everyone else out. They must be exposed for what they are so that one day, Americans will realize what they voted for.
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#45
As if dopes don't associate with Democrats, Liberals and the general left. Yet somehow they're not labelled extreme or irrelevant.
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ByblosHex;42945 Wrote:As if dopes don't associate with Democrats, Liberals and the general left. Yet somehow they're not labelled extreme or irrelevant.

Sure they are. By the people on the right who don't like them.

eg. code pink, the dixie chicks, john kerry. Who gets to do the naming depends on who is in power.

Conservatives, whether social or fiscal, don't like it this time because Owebama is in charge.

If Romney had won they (liberals) would have been on the end of the label.
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MrPeanut;42983 Wrote:
ByblosHex;42945 Wrote:As if dopes don't associate with Democrats, Liberals and the general left. Yet somehow they're not labelled extreme or irrelevant.

Sure they are. By the people on the right who don't like them.

eg. code pink, the dixie chicks, john kerry. Who gets to do the naming depends on who is in power.

Conservatives, whether social or fiscal, don't like it this time because Owebama is in charge.

If Romney had won they (liberals) would have been on the end of the label.

Who on the right refers to the left, democrats or liberals as being irrelevant?
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#48
Go back to 2000-2008.
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#49
Dude these things are still going on and I don't understand why people want to stop it so much..


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