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Country livin, or suburbs?
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So while driving through a couple of the old suburbs around Pittsburgh today, I was thinking to myself that maybe buying a house in one of these suburbs would be a good idea as compared to a sprawling country retreat..., which is my current plan.

A little back story..., I currently rent a townhouse in an upscale development, which I do until I decide if I am staying in this area..., or not. I don't want to run into what I did when I moved here..., and that was having a hard time selling my house in southern York county, under the current market conditions.

Anyway, I've always had the mentality that the optimal prepper retreat would be multiple acres in the country, which is defensible. Then today, I thought "where are all of these people from the city going to go?" Aren't they going to head for the country, and aren't isolated country homes going to be a prime target of the masses?

I was thinking that maybe a house in one of these small towns wouldn't be a bad idea, either, as I looked at the different developments and old rows of houses. Wouldn't the masses pass by these areas? And if not..., what would the odds be that they'd target your house?

And then I look at my development..., I actually feel pretty secure here, even if the masses evacuated Pittsburgh. I feel my townhouse is pretty defensible, as there is only one approach. I sit atop a steep grade in the back..., almost vertical, and there is only one road up to my part. I don't think any of my neighbors would be a real threat...,

Anyway, I've rambled long enough, but this is what I was thinking about today and I wanted to get your thoughts and challenge the current paradigm..., even if I stick with my original plan of buying in the country.

Justin
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Country for me. No matter how many trees you have blocking your view of suburbia you are still surrounded by other people. When the city people flee they tend to head for suburbia IMO, the country scares them. Take the Poconos for example, all those city folk think they are really roughing out in the woods when they head to the poconos.

One benefit to the small town or suburbia development is being able to sell later. That is pretty much all that is selling around here.

I grew up about 30 miles outside Sacramento CA. Our area was at one time remote but these days it is just a suburb of the city, and with that came targeted crime. Our neighborhood in particular got hit hard and from talking with my parents who are still there, it isn't getting any better.
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Yep...country with trees.....and nice fencing system if you can afford it and a couple tough watch dogs to patrol if you're worried about invaders.

I am not in the country, but I was raised semi-rural and much prefer it. Would move back out west if I had the opportunity.
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Country for me.

Let's face it. If I am a bad guy, and there is a riot and you tuck away in your house. If I can have it, no one will. Burn the house up with everyone inside.

Look at storefronts during riots. They may want what's in the store. And they don't care if it breaks on the way out.

If the storm ever comes, I'll be in the cabin I'm working on.

Stocked pond, fresh springs, and amish people nearby.
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Oh yeah and if you own enough acreage, you have hunting right out your back door, and plenty of room to grow food. Can't do that in a townhouse....generally.
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Move to the sticks and don't look back.
You can sustain yourself with land. You can't do that in the city or burbs. People are more like minded in the country. And no matter how much people talk about heading to the hills when the SHTF...they won't. The vast majority will do nothing, and the few that do will die trying.
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Justin, something you need to consider. While there are going to be some people that will flee the population centers immediately, a good many others will stay put and start to loot everything they can in an attempt survive. You'll be stuck trying to defend yourself against larger force.

If you're out in the country, or even a much smaller town, people will actually have to find their way there. Those that are fleeing will run out of gas, get picked off or just end up walking for miles. They won't be much of an opponent by the time they reach the country.
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RugerGirl;51152 Wrote:Oh yeah and if you own enough acreage, you have hunting right out your back door, and plenty of room to grow food. Can't do that in a townhouse....generally.

When my uncle built his house, he made sure the master bathroom faced the majority of their property.

Someone once jokingly asked if it was so he could hunt from the toilet. He didn't answer.
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streaker69;51156 Wrote:Justin, something you need to consider. While there are going to be some people that will flee the population centers immediately, a good many others will stay put and start to loot everything they can in an attempt survive. You'll be stuck trying to defend yourself against larger force.

If you're out in the country, or even a much smaller town, people will actually have to find their way there. Those that are fleeing will run out of gas, get picked off or just end up walking for miles. They won't be much of an opponent by the time they reach the country.

Good point.

Something I didn't mention, is that my development is relatively rural. We're not in a town and although I can see Pittsburgh from my back stoop, I'm still about 10 miles out of town as the crow flies.

I generally think buying in the country is ideal, but can't some of the same arguments made against staying, say, where I am, be made against a solitary country house?

Unless you have a small army yourself, can you fend off an attacking hoard?

Or is it all moot?

Justin

God's Country;51155 Wrote:Move to the sticks and don't look back.
You can sustain yourself with land. You can't do that in the city or burbs. People are more like minded in the country. And no matter how much people talk about heading to the hills when the SHTF...they won't. The vast majority will do nothing, and the few that do will die trying.

Good point, I think you're probably right about the city folk. I grew up in the country, and my last place was country, so it isn't a matter of whether or not I can do it. I was just thinking about different things today, and wanted to get everyone's take. Thanks!

Justin
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As someone mentioned.....the "attacking hoard" would have to find you first.....and if you had lots of trees and a non-marked, long driveway, and maybe some fencing somewhere on the property, it seems to me it would be lots safer. I mean....you'd have to have an awfully determined and united group that just so happened to choose YOUR property to attack for you to have problems. I'd have to assume the probability of that is quite low.

There's so many things you could do, too, on your own property to safeguard yourself, not the least of which would be building a hidden underground shelter a small distance from the house, or whatever else.
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