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Cruz/Grassley Introduce Alternative Gun Bill
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Quote:Senators Ted Cruz (Texas) and Chuck Grassley (Iowa) introduced an alternative gun bill this morning that would replace the current Senate proposal from Chuck Schumer and would replace the Manchin-Toomey background checks legislation.

The proposal is the “Protecting Communities and Preserving the Second Amendment Act.” This Cruz-Grassley proposal would “improve the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, increase resources for prosecutions of gun crime, address mental illness in the criminal justice system, and strengthen criminal law by including straw purchasing and illegal firearm trafficking statutes.”

Grassley put an emphasis on the mental illness part of the bill. “We’ve put together an amendment that can effectively address some of the problems we’ve seen while protecting Second Amendment rights,” Grassley said. “I’ve been very interested in the mental health aspect of this debate, so we include provisions to study and address that issue.”

read the scope of the bill;

http://janmorganmedia.com/2013/04/cruzgr...-gun-bill/
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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When will these people ever give up????
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SigSauer226;96421 Wrote:When will these people ever give up????

did you read it? ...Shrug
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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middlefinger;96424 Wrote:
SigSauer226;96421 Wrote:When will these people ever give up????

did you read it? ...Shrug

It was already brought up and voted down ... over a half hour ago

Oh and again NOT A FREAKING BILL - an amendment! These idiots that write these stories need to learn WTF they are talking about
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middlefinger;96424 Wrote:did you read it? ...Shrug

Yes I did, and I don't like it.
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This is not going to get any NRA/GOA support unless sweeteners are added.

National Right to Carry that overrides liberal states and prevents them from entrapping travelers through their states who are not committing any crimes unrelated to the legal possession of their firearm from the state they originated from, is what is needed.

As many have said, that is the "holy grail" of the NRA. Well--Congress is about compromise, is it not?

Compromise, or face a slaughter when the bill dies in the Senate or doesn't ever reach the floor in the House.

Takes two to tango.
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I would like to propose a new gun bill: If you don't own guns you have no say regarding the 2nd Amendment!
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spblademaker;96497 Wrote:I would like to propose a new gun bill: If you don't own guns you have no say regarding the 2nd Amendment!

If you want to live like a socialist then move to a socialist country.
The law? The law is a human institution...
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csmith;96521 Wrote:
spblademaker;96497 Wrote:I would like to propose a new gun bill: If you don't own guns you have no say regarding the 2nd Amendment!

If you want to live like a socialist then move to a socialist country.

Yeah, Congress will get right on that. The 2nd Amendment applies to all Americans including libtards.

Not to go into a ideological shithole, but there's plenty of government goods that are fully socialized. Veterans benefits and VA, and most white people that fled from Philly in the 70s/80s did it to relocate to a suburb to attend this thing called a good PUBLIC school. Puritanical libertarianism suggests that the state (no matter what level of the state we're talking about) should provide this service because it risks fostering government liturgy. If you've sent your kids to a public school instead of a religious institution where you paid tuition, you've already compromised on your "no-socialism" principles already.

The right to keep and bear arms in defense of oneself and the state applies to WHATEVER FORM OF ORGANIZED GOVERNMENT that the People have decided for themselves it should take.



If it's a theocratic shithole run by megachurch Baptist clergy, a socialist-Marxist contraplutocracy, or just a plain old Democratic Republic that's decided to oppress its own citizens and remove its rights. Shitty governments are not limited to Socialist ones.
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What I want to know is why the article has a photo of a pistol resting on the Bible.

What does the Bible have to do with this issue other than to paint gun supporters as religious nuts as well. (Recalling Obama's clinging to their guns and religion comment.)

What does a pistol (esp one with <10 rd mag) have to do with Assault rifles?
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