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Cycle Cams... Step In The Right Direction...
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City Cycle Officers are using helmet cams.....

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/video/785...e-cameras/
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#2
Not sure how it's a step in the right direction. I think it's quite the opposite.

Too many cameras.
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Emptymag;25601 Wrote:Not sure how it's a step in the right direction. I think it's quite the opposite.

Too many cameras.
Video doesnt lie. The Cameras will makethe Police think, before beating the shit out of someone. It will also make people think before acting. I am not only ok with the monitoring of the Police action, I support it!
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See, the way I see it is that if you support that, you should support police cameras watching the streets as well. You know, because they will "make the public think, before beating the shit out of someone."
Like that punk who knocked out the teacher while walking down the street last week in Pgh.

Yeah. Great "crime preventers" those cameras are.


Too many cameras. Equip a few police with them now, more later, even more later, and then more in other places...

I'm not a fan.
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Daycrawler;25608 Wrote:Video doesnt lie. The Cameras will makethe Police think, before beating the shit out of someone. It will also make people think before acting. I am not only ok with the monitoring of the Police action, I support it!

Hmm...seems odd that if it can be used against them there always seems to be a "technical error" or "data loss". Or in the case of the article, which states they can turn the camera on in a moments notice..."they forgot to turn it on" or "they accidentally hit the off button".

It seems the police are more likely to get caught making a "procedural error" on video when they don't know they are being recorded...

Emptymag;25613 Wrote:See, the way I see it is that if you support that, you should support police cameras watching the streets as well. You know, because they will "make the public think, before beating the shit out of someone."
Like that punk who knocked out the teacher while walking down the street last week in Pgh.

Yeah. Great "crime preventers" those cameras are.


Too many cameras. Equip a few police with them now, more later, even more later, and then more in other places...

I'm not a fan.

For your safety we just need to install a few cameras in your home...just to make sure no crimes are committed in your home....


Its already sad enough that a camera can take a picture of your license plate and if you make it to the next camera to quickly, you'll receive your speeding ticket in the mail.
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spartakis252;25619 Wrote:Its already sad enough that a camera can take a picture of your license plate and if you make it to the next camera to quickly, you'll receive your speeding ticket in the mail.

Where did you hear this? The PA Turnpike toll system is not an approved speed timing device and can't be used to issue speeding tickets.
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steelcityk9cop;25625 Wrote:
spartakis252;25619 Wrote:Its already sad enough that a camera can take a picture of your license plate and if you make it to the next camera to quickly, you'll receive your speeding ticket in the mail.

Where did you hear this? The PA Turnpike toll system is not an approved speed timing device and can't be used to issue speeding tickets.

One of the communist states, I don't remember which one, has tried this. I don't think it's still in effect due to inaccuracy though. I will try to find where I read this later.

I know Florida has been using cameras to issue speeding tickets for awhile, but their cameras work in conjunction with radar devices.
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#8
I like these, and I think more police should have them. How often has video vindicated a person who otherwise would have lost the "he said, she said" battle in court to a policeman? My caveat would be that any time the video of an encounter is "lost", or "turned off", a default judgement is entered in favor of the citizen (the one without qualified immunity).
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#9
Most people are OK with giving up something to get something else when it benefits them in some way.

"I'm OK with cameras that prove I did nothing wrong, but I'm not OK with ones that watch me all the time."

I don't think one is worth the other.
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Arizona had a section of the Loop 202 with speed cameras. They had them up for a time to see if they'd be useful. They were up for like a year and they came down after the test period. They didn't keep people from speeding anywhere except where the cameras could see you.
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