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Dale W. Woolridge
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Sounds a lot like PreserveandProtect.

Guns are scary!!!
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Quote:We’re winning! Well, we were winning.

Unfortunately, the tactics of some well-meaning pro-gun people threaten to reverse many of our gains. In parks and public places throughout the U.S. gun owners are flaunting their Second Amendment rights by openly carrying firearms at rallies and marches, sometimes getting cited in localities where this is against the “law.” One of these demonstrators showed up for court bearing a PS90 (a scary-looking gun if ever there was one), two handguns, and some magazines. NRA members should do everything we can to discourage these tactics.

The issue is not that the tactics are too confrontational, but that their cost-benefit math is not in our interests. Sooner or later someone will be convicted of violating one of these unconstitutional ordinances, a state Supreme Court will uphold the conviction, and local governments will have all the cover they need to roll out new anti-gun restrictions.

Where are the benefits? I don’t see a lot of new blood coming into our movement as a result of open-carry demonstrations. It’s hard to believe that many people would see a pro-gun guy armed as though for downtown guerrilla combat, and think “I want to be just like him.” I do see some signs of anti-gun groups getting mobilized.

I’m also not seeing a wave of localities repealing anti-gun ordinances after we come in and scare the bejesus out of them. Perhaps we would get better results if politicians didn’t know that they won’t get hurt on election day regardless of how many loud noises the scary-gun people make at rallies and marches. We shoot blanks and everyone knows it.

The tactics are all downside and there’s no upside. Let’s stop it if we can.

Yours in Freedom,

Dale W. Woolridge

(717) 439-3289

www.facebook.com/dale.w.woolridge

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well, I responded, pretty diplomatically, I think:

My name is Alex *****. I was in attendance at the "summit" held in Cabela's in Harrisburg, which is how I assume you got my email addy. We attended the same conference, but it seems you didn't really pay any attention to what was discussed.

Your email shows the mentality that many "sportsmen" have: that they really care nothing about the 2A or Article 21, as long as they can keep their hunting rifles. Your comment about the PS90 illustrates that. A rifle is a rifle is a rifle; anti-gun people don't care if it's a PS90 or a Remington 700; they want them gone.

Have you been paying attention to the battle over gun rights in PA, at all? Many of the victories gained recently were garnered by the people you're actively seeking to suppress. Look up the names of Greg Rotz, Meleanie Hain, and Mark Fiorino. Look at what what they and others like them have accomplished here in PA.

Now take a look at what the NRA has done here. Wait, I can do that for you now: nothing. The NRA, through John Hohenwater, actively sought to undermine the move towards Castle Doctrine, and indeed managed to torpedo it the first time around. The second time around, many activists, including the people I mentioned and others like myself, disregarded them, distanced ourselves from them, and blocked them from participating in state-related activities. You can thank us later.

As for the activities of open carriers, so far, every legal challenge they've encountered has been overcome, and won...even in notoriously anti-gun hotbeds like Philadelphia (Mark Fiorino). Those who regularly choose to open carry are often the most "hardcore", dedicated defenders of liberty and civil rights....and these are the people that you want to discourage? Your opinion on this matter is, quite frankly, asinine.

"Sooner or later someone will be convicted of violating one of these unconstitutional ordinances, a state Supreme Court will uphold the conviction, and local governments will have all the cover they need to roll out new anti-gun restrictions." As I've pointed out, you are either woefully misinformed, or willfully ignorant of current events here in PA.

" I’m also not seeing a wave of localities repealing anti-gun ordinances after we come in and scare the bejesus out of them. Perhaps we would get better results if politicians didn’t know that they won’t get hurt on election day regardless of how many loud noises the scary-gun people make at rallies and marches." Again...you're incorrect. Dozens upon dozens of preemption violations across the Commonwealth were corrected, most of which didn't even require litigation. I myself was involved in a few....and most of the victories occurred because these politicians had the "bejesus" scared out of them. That is, they were scared of being sued and/or prosecuted for violating state law. Change doesn't happen with nice words, it happens when you force the other side's hand.

As I mentioned at the summit, the biggest obstacle gun owners face is other gun owners...particularly ones such as yourself, who would actively seek to undermine, discredit, and ultimately stop others from practicing and exercising their right to bear arms. Do I carry an AR15 to the store to buy milk? No. I myself have been critical of guys carrying rifles down the street. But I would never in a million years try to stop them from doing so, or seek to undermine them. That would only hurt me in the long run, because their rights are my rights.

I'm not clear on whether or not you represent the NRA in some official capacity, and I don't care. But they might. If you want to help protect our rights in this state, I suggest that you rethink your strategy. That is to say:

1. Stop viewing the people on your side as the enemy.

2. Stop using baseless theories as a foundation to justify your beliefs.

3. Do your homework.

4. Stop trying to actively suppress others from exercising their right to bear arms in the manner they choose. I

don't know if any of this will get through to you. I suspect it won't. It doesn't matter. I've said my piece, if you wish to respond, you're welcome to. I have posted this email publicly, as well, in the Facebook group I run, PA Open & Concealed Carry, for others to view and comment on.

And his response:

Thanks for writing. I can tell that you are as passionate as I am about the right to keep and bear arms. Actually, we may not be very far apart.I love civil disobedience and I want more. A lot more. In the past, I contributed time and money to help people who have gotten into legal trouble by breaking “laws.” I have also studied contentious and confrontational politics academically. So people who do in-your-face acts are hardly enemies, and I don’t generally believe they are being too confrontational.Activist tactics are not all created equal. Beneficial social changes have often come out of the disruptive actions of ordinary people, outside of the workings of politics-as-usual. Some tactics, though, are counter-productive. It is common sense to judge the merits and liabilities of tactics and choose the ones that have the best balance sheet. Any tactic that alienates people who you want to get on your side, discourages activist-minded people from participating in your event, and motivates people to push for prohibiting legislation is probably a poor choice. I am free to express my judgments about choices of tactics, and while discouraging poor tactics I am not concerned about “suppression,” whatever that is.Thanks for the good work you are doing. You can share this with your closed group if you wish. Yours in Freedom,
Dale W. Woolridge
The opinions expressed in this message are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of any organization.
Unbanned since September 2012.
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#14
Seems his reply was appropriate. While I might disagree with him for the long game, his tactics are good defense. The issue is we need to attack to win. The middle game needs both. Regardless, I don't see him as the douche I first thought he was.
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