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Darren Wilsons testimony and side of the story.
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I'm putting this in Armed Citizen because while Wilson was an officer, he is a citizen who used a firearm to protect himself. The account below is worth reading and offers a few things that I think we can learn from.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/25/justic...html?hpt=hp_t1

(CNN) -- Grand jury proceedings are secret, and when no indictment is handed down -- as was the case for Ferguson police Officer Darren Wilson -- the files remain locked up.
But in an unusual step after a grand jury deliberation, transcripts of testimony that jurors heard considering Michael Brown's death have been released to the public.

Late Monday night, officials made available 24 volumes of material, covering 23 meetings that the grand jury held between August 20 and November 21.
A CNN team is going through all of the court documents. Here's what has emerged so far from that review:

Wilson had never used his weapon on duty before the shooting
Wilson had never fired his gun on duty before shooting Michael Brown, he told the grand jury.
Asked if he had ever used excessive force before, he replied: "I've never used my weapon before."
Wilson testified the area of the shooting was 'hostile'

Wilson called the area where Brown was shot a "hostile environment."
"There's a lot of gangs that reside or associate with that area. There's a lot of violence in that area, there's a lot of gun activity, drug activity, it is just not a very well-liked community. That community doesn't like the police."
What's next for Officer Wilson?
Wilson said he hoped to arrest Brown

Wilson told the grand jury his original goal was to arrest Brown, after identifying him as a possible suspect in a shop theft.
"My main goal was to keep eyes on him and just to keep him contained until I had people coming there," he testified.

"I knew I had already called for backup and I knew they were already in the area for the stealing that was originally reported. So I thought if I can buy 30 seconds of time, that was my original goal when I tried to get him to come to the car. If I could buy 30 seconds of time, someone else will be here, we can make the arrest, nothing happens, we are all good. And it didn't happen that way."

Wilson was carrying mace, not a stun gun
Wilson told the grand jury he didn't normally carry a stun gun.
"We only have a select amount. Usually there is one available, but I usually elect not to carry one. It is not the most comfortable thing. They are very large. I don't have a lot of room in the front for it to be positioned," he told the grand jury.

The officer testified he was carrying mace when he encountered Brown.

Wilson said he feared Brown could beat him to death
Officer Wilson told the grand jury that Brown punched him in the face when the officer drove back to him.
Wilson said he tried to get out of his cruiser but Brown slammed the door shut twice and hit him with his fist.

"I felt that another of those punches in my face could knock me out or worse ... I've already taken two to the face and I didn't think I would, the third one could be fatal if he hit me right," Wilson said.
Wilson fired 12 times

Twelve shots were fired by Wilson. Wilson said two shots were fired during a struggle at his police vehicle and that he then fired three bursts of gunfire as he chased and then backed away from Brown. He testified that his Sig Sauer .40 caliber gun held a maximum of 13 bullets.
Twelve casings were recovered and one bullet remained in the weapon, according to the grand jury documents.
How prosecutor defended grand jury's decision
Wilson said Brown kept running through shots

Wilson testified he shot at Brown on the street when Brown turned on him.
"As he is coming towards me, I tell, keep telling him to get on the ground, he doesn't. I shoot a series of shots. I don't know how many I shot, I just know I shot it," he said.
"I know I missed a couple, I don't know how many, but I know I hit him at least once because I saw his body kind of jerk," he said.
Wilson testified that Brown did not slow down.

"At this point I start backpedaling and again, I tell him get on the ground, get on the ground, he doesn't. I shoot another round of shots," he said.
"Again, I don't recall how many him every time. I know at least once because he flinched again. At this point it looked like he was almost bulking up to run through the shots, like it was making him mad that I'm shooting at him.
"And the face that he had was looking straight through me, like I wasn't even there, I wasn't even anything in his way."
He told the jurors he thought Brown was going to tackle him.

"Just coming straight at me like he was going to run right through me. And when he gets about that 8 to 10 feet away, I look down, I remember looking at my sites and firing, all I see is his head and that's what I shot.
"I don't know how many, I know at least once because I saw the last one go into him. And then when it went into him, the demeanor on his face went blank, the aggression was gone, it was gone, I mean, I knew he stopped, the threat was stopped.
"When he fell, he fell on his face."
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I found this particularly interesting:

"I felt that another of those punches in my face could knock me out or worse ... I've already taken two to the face and I didn't think I would, the third one could be fatal if he hit me right," Wilson said.


I've seen it discussed here about whether you should shoot an unarmed man, and I have heard antis in the past calling gun owners cowards for carrying a gun and "not settling things like a man".

Wilson's statement really brings home just how much damage a person can do with their fists. A person should never have to come down to the level of a criminal who is assaulting them to make things fair. If someone attacks you, they can seriously harm you or kill you.

And it is also a statement in favor of why carry should be legal. A large person can do serious harm to a smaller person whether the large person has a gun or not. A small person may not be able to defend themselves without a firearm, but a firearm gives them the ability to fight back. It can take them from victim to survivor.
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There are people out there that believe that the cop should have taken the beating, much the same way they thought Zimmerman should have just taken his beating.
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The photos of his face with welts have been released as well.
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streaker69;157323 Wrote:There are people out there that believe that the cop should have taken the beating, much the same way they thought Zimmerman should have just taken his beating.

Unfortunately true. I understand that some people will hate cops no matter what. I also understand that some officers earn that. But being a cop does not mean that you give up your right to life for a criminal, nor does it mean that "punching bag" should be part of your job description.

We are all responsible for our actions and behaviors. Brown chose to rob that store putting himself in a position to be stopped by the officer and setting up that whole situation. If Wilson's account is true, Brown created the situation where he got shot.

Being a cop does not mean you give up your right to life and well being if a criminal chooses a course of action meant to harm the cop or take his life.

When I first heard about body cameras, I had some objections about them. Those objections do not exist for me anymore and I was wrong about them.
They can keep the cops who need it honest, and protect the cops who do not need them.
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You're racist for implying he's not guilty.

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http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/darr...son-897043

Quote:The unidentified witness wrote that the 18-year-old Brown “has his arms out with attitude,” while “The cop just stood there.” The witness added, “Dang if that kid didn’t start running right at the cop like a football player. Head down.”

The witness told of hearing “3 bangs,” but “the big kid wouldn’t stop.”

The witness’s account of the unarmed Brown charging Wilson--even after he had been shot in the hand during a struggle at the cop’s patrol car--supports the officer’s contention that he fired a series of shots as Brown bore down on him.

During his September 16 grand jury testimony, Wilson, 28, recounted how he tussled with Brown when the teenager grabbed for his gun while lunging into the squad car. As they fought over the weapon, Wilson testified, the teenager taunted him, yelling, “You’re too much of a pussy to shoot me.”

Wilson told the grand jury that he felt Brown’s “fingers try to get inside the trigger guard with my finger.” He added, “I distinctly remember envisioning a bullet going into my leg. I thought that was the next step.”

Testifying that he thought Brown (seen at left) would “kill me if he gets ahold of this gun,” Wilson said that he discharged the weapon inside the cruiser. The gunshot, he added, “kind of startled him and me at the same time.” The teenager then “looked up at me and had the most intense aggressive face,” Wilson recalled. “The only way I can describe it, it looks like a demon, that’s how angry he looked.” Brown, Wilson testified, then raised his arms and punched him in the face.

Wilson also gave grand jurors another vivid description of Brown. Recalling when he first placed his hand on the teenager’s arm--when the 6’ 4”, 292-pound Brown was alongside his patrol car--Wilson testified that, “I felt like a five-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan.” The cop added, “Hulk Hogan, that’s just how big he felt and how small I felt just from grasping his arm.”
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If Darren Wilson would have just been born black, then he could have murdered Mike Brown and then gotten signed to a record label. If Mike Brown had died from an IDE in Afghanistan, no one in Furgistan besides his mother and father would have even cared.

I feel sorry for Wilson. He did his job perfectly, and now his career in law enforcement is over.
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Ten*K;157367 Wrote:If Darren Wilson would have just been born black, then he could have murdered Mike Brown and then gotten signed to a record label. If Mike Brown had died from an IDE in Afghanistan, no one in Furgistan besides his mother and father would have even cared.

I feel sorry for Wilson. He did his job perfectly, and now his career in law enforcement is over.

Agree. I don't think any of the protestors really give a damn, either; it's just an excuse to go out and trash shit and steal stuff. Even if the grand jury did indict him, we'd still have to deal with this shit when the evidence resulted in a not guilty verdict. Indictment would have just postponed the inevitable. I'm glad to see they didn't cave on this one.

Yeah, it's too bad for Wilson, since this sounds like he didn't do anything wrong.(of course, it might have been cleaner if Mikey died from a single shot while halfway inside the vehicle) I think some people would be happier if he let Mikey kill him and take his weapon and anything else he could get his hands on.

For that matter, what would have happened if he had killed Wilson?

This happened in March not too far from here:

http://www.odmp.org/officer/22056-police...id-w-smith

Quote:An employee at the business began arguing with other employees and assaulted one of them upon arriving at work. As Officer Smith arrived at the scene the employee ran out of the building waving his arms, and attacked Officer Smith before he was able to exit his patrol car or radio for help. The subject was able to disarm Officer Smith and shot him while he was still in the patrol car.

The man then opened fire on a second officer who was arriving at the scene. That officer returned fire, killing the subject.


Read more: http://www.odmp.org/officer/22056-police...z3KBCDUg9S
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