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Death Panels are Here
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Fox News story on 3/7/2013. Neil Cavuto speaks with Dr. Manny Alvarez about a government funded study outlining a "Mortality Test" for patients.


It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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I read Dr. Manny's article on this the other day. Its a bit worrisome. Undecided
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RugerGirl;86729 Wrote:I read Dr. Manny's article on this the other day. Its a bit worrisome. Undecided

Was there any mention of the "Liverpool Protocol"?
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streaker69;86731 Wrote:
RugerGirl;86729 Wrote:I read Dr. Manny's article on this the other day. Its a bit worrisome. Undecided

Was there any mention of the "Liverpool Protocol"?

Huh?

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/03/06...eath-test/
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RugerGirl;86734 Wrote:
streaker69;86731 Wrote:Was there any mention of the "Liverpool Protocol"?

Huh?

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/03/06...eath-test/

Do some googling on the "liverpool care pathway". See if it's similar to what's in that article, I don't have time right now to check.
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RugerGirl;86734 Wrote:
streaker69;86731 Wrote:Was there any mention of the "Liverpool Protocol"?

Huh?

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2013/03/06...eath-test/

Think of it this way for the Liverpool protocol.

You are in the hospital, and they could keep you alive with let's say dialysis.

The doctors discus weather or not it is "feasible" to give you a few more weeks. They then say, it is going to cost $20,000 just to give this person another month.

Then you don't get the treatment, they let you die. With dignity they say.
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Oh okay, just looked it up.

I don't think its exactly what the Death thing is....so far, anyway, it seems to be a long-range estimation of how long you have to live naturally. It takes into account any current illnesses or conditions, smoking, drinking, and other habits and lifestyles.

Basically it sounds like they want to figure out if you really have enough natural years left to make it worthwhile to try healing you, which is slightly different than the Liverpool thing, at least from a cursory glance at Wikipedia.

Sounds like eventually they'd merge up though.
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A guy called into a radio show yesterday, he was a courier for a medical lab.

he went to a regular stop he picks up , a place where they do cancer treaments, and after saying hello to the nurses he noticed they seemed a little distressed , and after asking what was wrong , the nurse told him they had to tell a woman that was there for her second round of chemotherapy , that medicare will no longer cover her treatment because of her age and sadly they had to turn her away....

like the doctor in the video says it all comes down to dollars , not your best interest
It's the "BILL OF RIGHTS" not the bill of "needs"
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middlefinger;86744 Wrote:A guy called into a radio show yesterday, he was a courier for a medical lab.

he went to a regular stop he picks up , a place where they do cancer treaments, and after saying hello to the nurses he noticed they seemed a little distressed , and after asking what was wrong , the nurse told him they had to tell a woman that was there for her second round of chemotherapy , that medicare will no longer cover her treatment because of her age and sadly they had to turn her away....

like the doctor in the video says it all comes down to dollars , not your best interest

That's scary, because we're all going to end up on "Medicare" in the next decade or so.
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#10
You all seem to worry about this as if it is going to prevent you from living forever.
When all around you is falling apart, grab another beer and smile.
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