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Derringers as BUG
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Friends,

I really like that bond arms snake slayer .45/.410 and have been thinking of picking one up as a pocket carried BUG.

Does anyone else carry something similar? Any other experiences or input?

Thanks

Justin
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#2
I have one. They go boom when you pull the trigger. The trigger could be better. I do not carry it.
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JustinHEMI;48357 Wrote:Friends,

I really like that bond arms snake slayer .45/.410 and have been thinking of picking one up as a pocket carried BUG.

Does anyone else carry something similar? Any other experiences or input?

Thanks

Justin

My cousin has one. LONG ago he relegated it to curiosity status when friends come over as a show and tell piece and replaced it with a Kel Tec P32 for actual carry duty.

A ruger LCP would serve you 1000x better.
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#4
I have had a chance at the range to play with a few different models.

They are fun to take out and put rounds through. I wouldn't carry one for a BUG unless it was all I had.

Low amount of firepower, and just not what I feel makes a good BUG.

Mind you, this is just my opinion.
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#5
They are grossly inaccurate, generally very slow into action (many models need to be cocked and have the manual safety removed before firing EACH shot), and only hold at most 2 shots.

Like i said...Ruger LCP....a much, much better selection. 7 rds, no safety, LIGHTER, FLATTER, and a nice consistent DAO trigger pull.
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#6
I also think you'd be better served with a small auto such as a LCP or PF9. Those derringers are heavy, bulky, more expensive, and have very limited capacity. That said, they look pretty badass and look more intimidating from the muzzle end. I wouldn't mind having one in the collection, but it wouldn't replace my pf9 for BUG duty. Here are specs on the PF9 and Snake Slayer IV:

TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS
Calibers: 9mm Luger 9 x 19 mm
Weight unloaded: 12.7 oz. 360g
Loaded magazine: 5.5 oz. 156g
Length: 5.85" 149mm
Height: 4.3" 109mm
Width: 0.88" 22mm
Barrel Length: 3.1" 79mm
Capacity: 7 + 1
Trigger Pull: 5 lbs 22.2N

Barrel: 4 1/4″ Comes in either .45/.410 or .38 Spec./.357 Mag Barrel
Weight: 23 1/2 oz.
Length: 6 1/4″
Stocks: Extended Custom Rosewood
Sights: Bladefront and Fixed Rear
No width or trigger pull info available, but many people on many forums remarking how hard the trigger is.
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#7
Thanks for all the info folks! Looks like a "toy" gun only then. I'm still getting one, but will look elsewhere for a BUG..,

Thanks!

Justin
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#8
I could not recommend a Ruger LCP with crimson trace any more highly. I like mine so much it became my EDC.

There is modern ammunition in .380 that out performs even legendary circa 1980's 9mm+P+ rounds like Federal 9BPLE in gel tests in both penetration and expansion. There are even rounds in .380 that penetrate a 32.5" gel block clean through. Even from a tiny 2.7" LCP barrel.

There are also a lot of .380 "premium" defense rounds that are IMO wholly inadequate. It's a caliber that to me is very ammunition dependent.

I get odd looks sometimes when i say it, but i would absolutely rather rely on my LCP as configured with modern Buffalo Bore 80gr+P solid copper hollowpoints than an old WWII spec GI 1911A1 firing 230gr military hardball. Technology has really transformed the lowly .380 into a viable EDC choice IMO.
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#9
There are better choices for a BUG, but if it's all you have, it sure beats throwing a rock.
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