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DHS Asking Businesses to Turn Over Info on “Prepper” Customers
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DHS Asking Businesses to Turn Over Info on “Prepper” Customers
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT SEVERAL "PREPPER" SITES HAVE THIS MENTIONED I CANT FIND ANY OTHER SOURCES.
This week, yet another sign the police state is rapidly advancing popped up in New York.

All across the state people are being asked to snitch on their neighbors in exchange for a $500 reward.

New York State DHS officials have reportedly distributed flyers to local businesses that advise owners as well as private citizens to call a hotline to report any “suspicious” activity.

Take a look and see for yourself in the video below: http://survivaljoe.net/blog/dhs-asking-b...=140428SJ2
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So they know who to raid if SHTF for food and ammo.
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Ten*K;142026 Wrote:So they know who to raid if SHTF for food and ammo.
Yep. Is it just me or are there ominous feelings going around lately? Land grabs, large ammo orders, large MRE and packaged food orders and this. Just paranoia or is something brewing we dont know about?Shrug
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no, No and NO! For others who may actually be embarrassed by living in such ignorance at least google concepts such as threat assessment criteria. One simply can’t just cherry pick one or three criteria and then use it as evidence of their already formed conclusion. Well, one can’t and then except not to be laughed at.
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Dave;142032 Wrote:no, No and NO! For others who may actually be embarrassed by living in such ignorance at least google concepts such as threat assessment criteria. One simply can’t just cherry pick one or three criteria and then use it as evidence of their already formed conclusion. Well, one can’t and then except not to be laughed at.
Please elaborate. I have come to no "conclusions" simply asking a question. Just seems like the more you read the more you wonder these days.
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das;142034 Wrote:Please elaborate.

Nothing personal but no thanks. In the past I’ve commented on it in much greater detail (here or there) but the audience seemed convinced if you buy a case of MRE you will be targeted so…….Shrug

Give me a conclusion, ANY conclusion and I WILL find supporting 'evidence' of it online. Chemtrails anyone?
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Dave;142039 Wrote:
das;142034 Wrote:Please elaborate.

Nothing personal but no thanks. In the past I’ve commented on it in much greater detail (here or there) but the audience seemed convinced if you buy a case of MRE you will be targeted so…….Shrug

Give me a conclusion, ANY conclusion and I WILL find supporting 'evidence' of it online. Chemtrails anyone?
No offense Dave but I dont understand what you are talking about. Your answer sounds like a cop out. Are saying that the "audience" is paranoid? Are you saying we are gullible if we believe SOME of this is actually going on? Please enlighten me all knowing Dave.
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Dave;142039 Wrote:
das;142034 Wrote:Please elaborate.

Nothing personal but no thanks. In the past I’ve commented on it in much greater detail (here or there) but the audience seemed convinced if you buy a case of MRE you will be targeted so…….Shrug

Give me a conclusion, ANY conclusion and I WILL find supporting 'evidence' of it online. Chemtrails anyone?

Uhh..the DHS did in fact release a list of domestic terrorism indicators which do, in fact, target preppers. Guns, ammo, medical supplies, storing large amounts of food and water... owning a bible... among other things.

I guess if the federal government wants to stop people from fearing for their liberty, they should stop trying to take it away.

If i buy 50,000 pounds of rice, beans, batteries, ammo, survival gear, dick lube and fleshlights (cause there wont be any internet porn or Amazon.com is shtf), then that is MY BUSINESS... not the Fed's.
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Indicators may not be the worse term to use. Do you really think if you buy mre, water and a bible they give a shit about it? It's just a few of many many data points used in threat assessments.

Let me try to explain a different way. Those with lung cancer usually have a cough. It's on the list of data points a doctor looks at. The way you guys are thinking about this is the same as if you want to the doctor with a cough they would start you on chemo for lung cancer.

If you guys are so paranoid about the 'police state' you would actually be supporting them going after anybody who just buys mre, etc. because they would not have any time or resources to do anything meaningful. This is why they use data matrices to weed out the 99%. Even if you hit every single point on the matrix all that would do would start a second look because these data points do nothing more than bring together common points from history. By themselves they mean little.

Back to our example. If you show up coughing, spitting up blood, weight loss and have smoked 3 packs of unfiltered cigs for 30 years the doctor still would not send you to chemo, it's just a starting point to start the investigation of what it may be.
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Now I get your point Dave. I dont think if you buy a modest amount of anything anyone would care but say someone is buying a case of ammo for a course, the .gov shouldnt be encouraging people to snitch you out. By them encouraging people to tell on others for their purchases it also breeds paranoia. To me its another way to stigmatize gun owners or preppers or whoever your creepy, intruding neighbor may think is doing something wrong. Now dont get me wrong if your neighbor has a meth lab by all means turn them in.
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