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Do you support airplane carry?
#1
I just read an article from Truth About Guns and it was a little intriguing!

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2014/07...-bad-idea/

Would you support legal open and/or concealed carry on commercial airline flights?

At first, I was like hell yeah! But the more I think about it, I am not sure I want 200+ people, that I don't know, armed with a device that could bring down the plane with one shot! The fact is that you just don't know everyone's level of training. The only upside would be x-ray and metal detectors combined with background checks could prevent criminals from packing on planes...but Murphy Law insists that something could and would go wrong from time to time! As much as I support the 2nd A, I would have to say no to free carry on planes.

So what do you guys think?
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#2
Can one shot really bring down a plane? Decompression from a single bullet hole isn't anything like what is shown in the movies. The glass of the windows don't shatter, the bullet just punches right through and then you hear a whistling sound. Even a shot through the skin doesn't cause massive damage.

That said, how is 200 people that you don't know carrying on a plane any different than 4 or 5 hundred people that you don't know show up at the state capital for a rally?

Even with all that there isn't a snowball's chance in hell of anyone other than Air Marshals being allowed to carry on a plane. The government has firmly seized control of the airlines and they'll never give up that power now.
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#3
I do not, for the same concerns as you.

I do, however, think that pilots and stewardesses should be allowed to carry, and that there should be an air marshal on most flights.

Of course, that raises the question "How do you know that the pilot/co-pilot/stewardess/air-marshall" is trustworthy and won't bring the plane down with a gun.

Though one might argue that concern is mitigated by the answer "they don't need the gun to do it, they have access to the cockpit" so there you have it.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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#4
I think that I don't read any restriction on airplane carry in the 2nd amendment. Why should my rights take a back seat to your uneasiness around strangers with guns?

Be that as it may, I know I'll never see it.

This reminds me of the "shouldn't carry guns in bars" argument. BS. My right to self defense doesn't end at the door of a bar. Or an airplane.

Justin
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streaker69;148473 Wrote:That said, how is 200 people that you don't know carrying on a plane any different than 4 or 5 hundred people that you don't know show up at the state capital for a rally?

You have nowhere to run on a plane is how I see it different, and 5 or 6 well-placed shots could take down an entire plane (if you point them towards the cockpit).
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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http://youtu.be/xd158NLEZi4
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JustinHEMI;148475 Wrote:My right to self defense doesn't end at the door of a bar. Or an airplane.

I agree to a point, but I personally see the bar/airplane thing as very different. Though like a handful of issues, I may not agree and may outright oppose it but will not fight for or against.

Perhaps that's the cowards way, but that's my opinion.
Vampire pig man since September 2012
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Camper;148478 Wrote:
JustinHEMI;148475 Wrote:My right to self defense doesn't end at the door of a bar. Or an airplane.

I agree to a point, but I personally see the bar/airplane thing as very different. Though like a handful of issues, I may not agree and may outright oppose it but will not fight for or against.

Perhaps that's the cowards way, but that's my opinion.


Not being permitted to carry is 1/2 of the reason I don't voluntarily fly anymore. The other 1/2, of course, being the government intrusion into my personal space via the TSA.

We all have our lines on rights, I'm on the wrong side of this one, though, since we'll never be allowed to carry on airplanes..., so my opinion on it really doesn't matter.


Justin

PS I said "voluntarily" fly because if a job opportunity presented itself, and I had to fly for an interview..., then I would do just that.
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#9
The arguments made by so called gun supporters against airplane carry is the same arguments used to discourage carry everywhere else by anti's.

One bullet isn't likely going to bring down a plane.
Statistically 200+people won't be carrying. I would be shocked if 2 or 3 on any given flight would have a licensed every day carrier on board.
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#10
You can already carry on trains in most places, why not? Pretty much the same minus the flying part, just a bunch of humans in a tube. Seeing how these days the pilots are behind locked and bullet proof doors and the idea of decompression from a bullet hole is a myth... Then many of the jet engines today are wrapped in Kevlar blankets to stop titanium shrapnel if a turbine gets shredded from a large bird strike in flight. bringing down a jet with a handgun would be pretty difficult without access to the pilot. For it to work though all of the aircraft crew would need to carry as well though.
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